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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    no vote
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    Of course our government has to rule and control, that is its purpose
    Society has shown that it is no where close to "standing on its two feet".
    Too much of our society has four feet.
    All marriages should be kept at a state level, but the states must work as a team; the feds can stay away.
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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    Marriage is an institute of religion and should be kept in the churches.

    Civil Unions are all that should be recognized by the government for tax purposes (that is for all couples regardless of orientation).
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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    The man issue is what about children that are outcomes of these marriages. There will need to be primary caretakers for said children. I most certainly do not trust the government to take care of them. Irregardless of what type there need to be both male and female roll models for the children. Anything else is just tort law and legal procedures that will take some time to determine.
    In the past, IMO, our government has demonstrated a poor ability to care for children.
    Now, IMO again, it is better, and probably a lot better than many "tax paying citizens".

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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Marriage is an institute of religion and should be kept in the churches.

    Civil Unions are all that should be recognized by the government for tax purposes (that is for all couples regardless of orientation).
    Marriage has been too many things in the past to paint it with one brush. It's been used to bring together tribes and families, to establish heirs, for religious reasons and for simply love. It's been government-recognized and non-government-recognized alike, and its nature has differed from culture to culture. It's a fluid, changing thing so using history to support your position only ends up hurting it.

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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I don't care what level of government it is, it could be at any level with the guideline that you are merely registering your marriage like you would if you were setting up an LLC or the like.

    Well, now here's the thing, let's take your argument to the next level.


    the problem is not whether government should be involved in marriage because of its judgment presiding over morality, but that it is presiding over morality at all. Remove that and you remove the problem

    What are laws? Codified morals? No? Throw in a dash of Authority with a pinch of punishment, and there's your government.

    No presiding over morality no presiding at all.

    Judging from the first part of your post and your political leaning, I'm gonna guess that's not where you want to go with this...
    Well, since you've brought motives into it (by weighing my post from my political lean), what's yours for removing government from marriage?

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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    I have no problem with the government promoting and regulating marriage.

    No, people should not be able to marry children.

    No, marriage contracts that are unconscionable or against public policy should not be enforced.

    Yes, there should be tax and other incentives for people to marry, because being married generally increases participants' emotional and financial stability.

    Yes, the government should play a role in the dissolution of marriages, to make sure that the parties' expectations are honored, children are supported, etc.

    Yes, sometimes distinctions should be made between married persons and unmarried persons in the distribution or allocation of federal benefits, where appropriate and practical.


    My problem with the current state of affairs is simply that there are a few regulations that are irrational and discriminatory. Thankfully, the public and the courts are now recognizing this, and the issue will probably be resolved very soon.
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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    This shouldn't be viewed as a sign that you are for or against gay marriage, polygamy, etc. Only whether or not the government should be the arbiter in moral decisions involving who or what is to be considered a suitable partner(s)
    i think this is rediculous the problem is government shouldn't even know if you are or aren't married that should be between you god (or your god) and your spouse i am very opposed to homosexuality as an act not to the people as we are supposed to love the sinner and hate the sin but i am not going to vote for gay marriage to be outlawed because i don't want the gov. in anyones business

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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    No. Marriages should be done by contract between two individuals. Be it between churches or whatever



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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    All the government is today is a register, it says nothing about morality, where did you get the absurd idea that it does?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Should The Government Be In The Marriage Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Marriage is an institute of religion and should be kept in the churches.

    Civil Unions are all that should be recognized by the government for tax purposes (that is for all couples regardless of orientation).
    Marriage has always been a secular institution, religion has tried to co-opt it but it hasn't been a primarily religious practice for a hell of a long time. You can walk down all the aisles in all the churches you want, you aren't really married until you get that piece of paper from the state.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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