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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Maybe. There are other ways we could deal with that, but at least it would cost them more time/money to get back.



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    Oh I know....I understand your views very clearly from previous threads.

    My view is they should be free to travel wherever they want as long as they assume the risk and understand that nobody will come save you if anything happens. (Like someone wanting to travel to Somalia for example....WHY? I don't know)
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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    My view is they should be free to travel wherever they want as long as they assume the risk and understand that nobody will come save you if anything happens. (Like someone wanting to travel to Somalia for example....WHY? I don't know)
    My question would be... Why would an American citizen want to travel to a foreign country that is not friendly to the United States to begin with? Though I do agree that if you leave the US, you do so at your own risk.

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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Oh I know....I understand your views very clearly from previous threads.

    My view is they should be free to travel wherever they want as long as they assume the risk and understand that nobody will come save you if anything happens. (Like someone wanting to travel to Somalia for example....WHY? I don't know)
    The reality is, whenever an American is held in a foreign country, we ARE involved. We have travel advisories for countries now, but when the pedal hits the metal our state department at the very least gets involved. Americans generally don't like leaving someone stranded against their will in a foreign country, even if they put themselves there.

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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The reality is, whenever an American is held in a foreign country, we ARE involved. We have travel advisories for countries now, but when the pedal hits the metal our state department at the very least gets involved. Americans generally don't like leaving someone stranded against their will in a foreign country, even if they put themselves there.
    Which is a problem so far as I'm concerned. If you're stupid enough to go hiking on the Iran-Iraq border and get yourself arrested by the Iranians, you're an imbecile (especially if you're female). There need to be some consequences for stupid people doing ridiculous things. Maybe 25 years in an Iranian jail cell wearing a burkah will impress upon you that once you step outside the US you're not in Kansas anymore.

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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    One of the incredibly damaging things to America that has been on the Liberal agenda for the past thirty years is devaluation and disrespect of America. College professors teach the students sarcasm and ridicule of the United States. To even mention something good America has done brings instant rebuttal from liberals like you. To you, there is No Good to the United States, it is bad, bad, bad and you stand ready to prove it with instant facts at your fingertips.

    Foreigners see this internal constant hate and ridicule of the United States and they are happy to take up the chant. They see America haters like Obama go down to the Southern border and make jokes about the United States to laughing Mexicans and they think Hell, the damn president doesn't even respect that worthless country.

    So I have no doubt that Observer92 actually believed that it was completely acceptable to insult the United States and everyone would think it was funny. That is Liberalism, kneejerk ridicule and laughter at the United States with an expectation that everyone will applaud. That is the danger of thinking that the liberal fruitcakes actually speak for Americans. They are evil, freakish people that are regarded as mentally ill.
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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Which is a problem so far as I'm concerned. If you're stupid enough to go hiking on the Iran-Iraq border and get yourself arrested by the Iranians, you're an imbecile (especially if you're female). There need to be some consequences for stupid people doing ridiculous things. Maybe 25 years in an Iranian jail cell wearing a burkah will impress upon you that once you step outside the US you're not in Kansas anymore.
    Perhaps, but if it were your son or daughter, in real life you'd be all over the State Department to do something. Life, and children, do not always follow the script you have in mind.

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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Perhaps, but if it were your son or daughter, in real life you'd be all over the State Department to do something. Life, and children, do not always follow the script you have in mind.
    Nope. My children would have hopefully learned (from me) that their place is here in the United States, not wandering across the wsatelands of the world. I believe in personal responsibility. If they chose to do otherwise, it would be with full knowledge that I would not be there to bail their arses out.

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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    I see no real reason for a continued ban. It never really worked anyway. Not sure I would ever want to go there but if others do they should be allowed. I don't see any real threat from them any longer.

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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Nope. My children would have hopefully learned (from me) that their place is here in the United States, not wandering across the wsatelands of the world. I believe in personal responsibility. If they chose to do otherwise, it would be with full knowledge that I would not be there to bail their arses out.
    Easy to say. Whether true when faced with a real situation or not, doesn't matter, most of us would turn to any means to get them home. Folks faced with that situation do.

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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Keep the travel ban it's a place Canadians can go without Americans.
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