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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Maybe the far right wing is just bascially insecure?

    I went to school for years and now teach at 2 universities. I dont think, right off hand, I ever heard a professor be disrespectful to the US. Dont get me wrong, I am sure it happens and often professors say whacky things to stimulate thought...well nevermind about that but Professors cannot indoctrinate studnets, it is difficult enough getting your subject matter through to them. This I think comes from the same place all the benefits for illegal immigrants, the imagination of the far right. On another forum I used to hang out on one day I signed on and the fastest growing thread was about the guy at Lowes that turns the Spanish out on all the boxes. They were furious. At first I thought they were kidding. No, the were dead serious they turly bleived there was some guy that was suppose to turn the Spanish out, the guy that brought it up even stated where he lived he almost never even seen a Mexican, I think he was in New Hampshire. My point is I am sure we can all see the absurdity in that just to, I guess, make us "good Americans" uncomfortable or something. If Americans are ridiculed by anyone overseas it is because of the small mindedness of a small but powerful and vocal minority. It is quite embaressing sometimes.

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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    One of the incredibly damaging things to America that has been on the Liberal agenda for the past thirty years is devaluation and disrespect of America. College professors teach the students sarcasm and ridicule of the United States. To even mention something good America has done brings instant rebuttal from liberals like you. To you, there is No Good to the United States, it is bad, bad, bad and you stand ready to prove it with instant facts at your fingertips.

    Foreigners see this internal constant hate and ridicule of the United States and they are happy to take up the chant. They see America haters like Obama go down to the Southern border and make jokes about the United States to laughing Mexicans and they think Hell, the damn president doesn't even respect that worthless country.

    So I have no doubt that Observer92 actually believed that it was completely acceptable to insult the United States and everyone would think it was funny. That is Liberalism, kneejerk ridicule and laughter at the United States with an expectation that everyone will applaud. That is the danger of thinking that the liberal fruitcakes actually speak for Americans. They are evil, freakish people that are regarded as mentally ill.
    you stand ready to prove it with instant facts at your fingertips.
    You're right and I back it up with facts. I guess you would prefer to dwell in the Media generated fantasyland, but I'm afraid reality is omnipresent. I know that you will picture yourself a big patriot for accepting the media generated fantasyland. Us evil, freakish people have to be satisfied trying to defend truth, freedom, liberty, justice, etc., instead of being proud of getting more OIL into an Exxon/Mobil pipeline or tanker, or stoppin' the flow o' dem Cuban cigars and adopting a policy that makes the plight of the poor in Cuba worse. Yeh, geet dose po' peoples befo' they multiply. I mean, in reality, what else could we be doing with this embargo. Who are we punishing? We punished them so bad in Cuba that they have the best medical care in the Western hemisphere and they learned to develop an economy without CORPORATIONS. Now that's progress, against all odds, and an embargol.

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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Nope. Not until they give up on Communism. Then again, I'd implement the same restrictions to other socialist/communist countries like China, Canada, and most of Europe.

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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Nope. Not until they give up on Communism. Then again, I'd implement the same restrictions to other socialist/communist countries like China, Canada, and most of Europe.
    Your totalitarian ideas are duly noted sir.
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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Not until the day Castro dies. Really, for whatever reasons, good or bad, we've kept it going for this long, that sounds like the perfect place to draw the line.

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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not until the day Castro dies. Really, for whatever reasons, good or bad, we've kept it going for this long, that sounds like the perfect place to draw the line.
    He already is so fragile that he can't run his country. It makes no sense to keep the embargo and travel ban. Aren't we a free country? Shouldn't we have the right to say where we want to go? That is the essence of freedom. I don't give two cents if my government doesn't like it. They can warn the citizens to not travel there, but downright ban? That is asinine to do in a so-called free country.
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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    He already is so fragile that he can't run his country. It makes no sense to keep the embargo and travel ban. Aren't we a free country? Shouldn't we have the right to say where we want to go? That is the essence of freedom. I don't give two cents if my government doesn't like it. They can warn the citizens to not travel there, but downright ban? That is asinine to do in a so-called free country.
    Okay, that's fine. We'll lift the travel ban TO Cuba. However, we'll maintain the travel ban back FROM Cuba. How's that work for you?

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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    He already is so fragile that he can't run his country. It makes no sense to keep the embargo and travel ban. Aren't we a free country? Shouldn't we have the right to say where we want to go? That is the essence of freedom. I don't give two cents if my government doesn't like it. They can warn the citizens to not travel there, but downright ban? That is asinine to do in a so-called free country.
    Then it should be a short wait until he's dead and gone. As for the freedom of travel, if it were a restriction within the US I might agree with you, but this is not that.

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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Okay, that's fine. We'll lift the travel ban TO Cuba. However, we'll maintain the travel ban back FROM Cuba. How's that work for you?
    If that's what you want to do....all that would really do is inconvenience people enough to get a connecting flight somewhere.

    Either way...travel bans go against the idea of freedom. The government should warn folks going into countries where they maybe harmed by that government....just on the warning state "We do not advise any American to travel to (whatever country). If you choose to, and are captured by any forces...the risks are on yours to carry."
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    Re: Should the United States end it's trade embargo and travel ban with Cuba?

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    If that's what you want to do....all that would really do is inconvenience people enough to get a connecting flight somewhere.
    Maybe. There are other ways we could deal with that, but at least it would cost them more time/money to get back.

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Either way...travel bans go against the idea of freedom. The government should warn folks going into countries where they maybe harmed by that government....just on the warning state "We do not advise any American to travel to (whatever country). If you choose to, and are captured by any forces...the risks are on yours to carry."
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