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Thread: Should we get rid of the constitution

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    Should we get rid of the constitution

    I am curious as to who in here agrees with this guy.

    "AS the nation teeters at the edge of fiscal chaos, observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken. But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/31/op...stitution.html

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    Re: Should we get rid of the constitution

    I bet the dude is a progressive: my way or the highway because I have received Enlightenment and know better than you how the rest of you should be governed.
    "We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress & the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
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    Re: Should we get rid of the constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    I bet the dude is a progressive: my way or the highway because I have received Enlightenment and know better than you how the rest of you should be governed.
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    Re: Should we get rid of the constitution

    We should embrace the Constitution!

    It gives us the checks in order to balance the power of government. We need the Constitution for the rights given to us.

    Anyone who supports getting rid of it is about as Anti-American as it gets. The Constitution needs to be picked up off the ground it was thrown on, dusted off, and followed once again.
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    Re: Should we get rid of the constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I am curious as to who in here agrees with this guy.

    "AS the nation teeters at the edge of fiscal chaos, observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken. But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/31/op...stitution.html
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    Re: Should we get rid of the constitution

    I don't think we need to ditch the constitution but neither do I think we should be held in bondage by it and unable to change it with the times.

    I consider the constitution to be a living document. A great blueprint that requires adjustment now and then.

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    Re: Should we get rid of the constitution

    The author is just one more statist pleading his case.

    In the authors words from his conclusion, "If even this change is impossible, perhaps the dream of a country ruled by “We the people” is impossibly utopian."...."ruled"....this word always comes up. Well...if we ever "extricate ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance." (again, the authors words) that "rule" is exactly what we will get.

    It never ceases to amaze me....and frighten the hell out of me...that someone could teach Constitutional law for 40 years and still not truly understand the principles upon which it was based.

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    Re: Should we get rid of the constitution

    It depends on one's view of the Constitution of course....if you're an originalist it should be because as a dead piece of paper it speaks only to the ideals of 200 years ago.

    I tend to have a more expansive view of the Constitution and think it still means something to us.


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    Re: Should we get rid of the constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I am curious as to who in here agrees with this guy.

    "AS the nation teeters at the edge of fiscal chaos, observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken. But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/31/op...stitution.html
    Luckily, the Founders envisioned that American society would change and created a pathway to alter the Constitution through the amendment process. So any "evil provisions" contained within can be removed. But doing so is time consuming and requires an enormous degree of national consensus. The fact that no such consensus exists and no one has offered a meaningful amendment in decades is evidence that the people complaining about the Constitution are a tiny minority.

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    Re: Should we get rid of the constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I am curious as to who in here agrees with this guy.

    "AS the nation teeters at the edge of fiscal chaos, observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken. But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/31/op...stitution.html
    I can't even believe someone would suggest such a thing. That is what our whole nation was built upon and where all of our ideals about freedom and liberty and fighting against tyrannical governmental entities originated from. I think some people that would suggest such things must be INCREDIBLY ignorant about life.

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