View Poll Results: Should Taxes Be Raised on Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    We already have a tax on cigarettes. We should tax sugar too, and insurance companies should be allowed to charge higher premiums for smokers and obese people.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    How much of every dollar spent on a pack goes towards taxes? I'm pretty sure they already pay their fair share of extra taxes.

    I'm a non smoker btw, too damn expensive.
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Taxes don't need to be raised on them. They just need to be charged higher healthcare premiums.
    That would work if we did not see health nuts in their 40's and 50's dying of heart failure.

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    That would work if we did not see health nuts in their 40's and 50's dying of heart failure.
    Are you denying a connection between obesity and heart disease?

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Are you denying a connection between obesity and heart disease?
    Not at all but I am saying hereditary traits are just as important, so should those people pay more as well?

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, the government should not be meddling in the market to get the results it wants be that peoples buying decisions or anything else.
    Ah, welcome to life in Henrin's world. Where everyone is isolated and we let people die homeless in the streets.

    In the real world, governments have meddled in the market every time they make a spending decision. Furthermore, the government should meddle in the market to incentive people and companies to not do certain actions, such as dumping arsenic and mercury into drinking water.
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Ah, welcome to life in Henrin's world. Where everyone is isolated and we let people die homeless in the streets.
    You sound like a woman that remembers things for forever and when their stupid little opinion doesn't get the answer they want they decide to bring it up over and over again in the hopes that it will change the response you give it. The fact remains however they are doing nothing to change your opinion and so your opinion stays exactly the same.

    In the real world, governments have meddled in the market every time they make a spending decision. Furthermore, the government should meddle in the market to incentive people and companies to not do certain actions, such as dumping arsenic and mercury into drinking water.
    The point I was making was in relation to the topic of the thread, not waste and how to resolve that problem. I disagree with trying to change people's buying decisions and there is nothing you can say to make me change my opinion on that.
    Last edited by Henrin; 02-06-13 at 09:48 AM.

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Our tax code isn't used only to provide revenue for our government, it has been designed to promote certain governmental wanted behavior from its citizens. Do as the government wishes, you will get a tax brake, a subsidy, an additional deduction. Do something the government wishes you wouldn't, you get additional taxes thrown on you. ciggerette tax is an ideal example as it has grown 10 fold since the 50's and 60's. Do as the government wishes, you are taxed less, do not behave as the government wants, they tax you more.
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You sound like a woman that remembers things for forever and when their stupid little opinion doesn't get the answer they want they decide to bring it up over and over again in the hopes that it will change the response you give it. The fact remains however they are doing nothing to change your opinion and so your opinion stays exactly the same.
    On the contrary, I'm just reminding everyone of why your opinions are of little value. They are birthed in world of fantasy where everyone is isolated and we let people die homeless in the streets. The simple fact of the matter is that your ideas only work there. You have never been able to argue how your beliefs actually function outside of your fantasy land.

    It's not my fault that you don't like the inherent absurdity of your beliefs being broadcasted to everyone.


    The point I was making was in relation to the topic of the thread, not waste and how to resolve that problem. I disagree with trying to change people's buying decisions and there is nothing you can say to make me change my opinion on that.
    Well, when you live in a fantasy land, sure. Nothing can change your beliefs. Heck, according to your beliefs, Somalia in the 1990s was a paradise eh?
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