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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Taxes, no. However, I do support health and life insurance companies giving deep annual rebates to the insured who meet healthy living benchmarks and support community health including:
    • *non-tobacco users
      *non-obese
      *low cholesterol
      *low triglycerides
      *regular blood donors
      *organ donor registrants
      *non-alcohol users
      *regular aerobic exercisers (joggers, swimmers, bikers, active health club members, etc.) demonstrated by low heart rate
      *non-recreational drug users
      *etc.
    Great points all.
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I saw this article and thought it would be a good poll. Personally, I don't see an issue with taxing smokers more especially. The article even points out that the poor smoke more than the rich.........how stupid is that? If you don't have any money, why are you doing something that is totally detrimental to your health and costs an arm and a leg? Full disclosure, I was a smoker and I dipped. I quit cold turkey in Afghanistan. By choice, not by circumstance. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done. But I'm so glad I did it.
    As far as obesity, it would have to be a little to technical to work. Personally, I don't accept any excuse for obesity other than a medical condition such as thyroid problems. It doesn't matter what your physical capabilities are. If you manage calories effectively, you can lose weight or at least maintain your current weight. You can call that harsh if you want and it may be. But it's true.
    Do penalties for smokers and the obese make sense? | Fox News
    More than half the cost of a pack of cigarettes is taxes. You know why? To offset the cost of health insurance. It's already paid for and covered; government just wants more.
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    More than half the cost of a pack of cigarettes is taxes. You know why? To offset the cost of health insurance. It's already paid for and covered; government just wants more.
    I guess the mistake I made with this thread is not clarifying that we are talking about a fantasy world where the increased taxes would actually go towards the healthcare for the side effects of the product being bought. My bust lol.
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Good evening, Ikari.
    Government always wants more! It's what governments do. Many run for office by saying they "want to serve," but we don't learn about their CAPABILITY to serve until after they are elected. Then we see in many cases they hope to serve only themselves. As an example, they voted for sequester, but now their time is spent trying to avoid the cuts they voted for just a few months ago.
    I thought taxing tanning beds was off-the-wall, since it's obviously discriminatory, but I might have guessed that more was on the way.

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    The results of the poll taken above are interesting. Most people said NO to taxing either smokers or the obese! How many more people would the government have to hire to handle that tax situation? Maybe people are weary of government meddling in order to grow larger and larger?

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    The results of the poll taken above are interesting. Most people said NO to taxing either smokers or the obese! How many more people would the government have to hire to handle that tax situation? Maybe people are weary of government meddling in order to grow larger and larger?
    Maybe it's not about the taxation and more about the moralization...................just wondering...........................

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    The results of the poll taken above are interesting. Most people said NO to taxing either smokers or the obese! How many more people would the government have to hire to handle that tax situation? Maybe people are weary of government meddling in order to grow larger and larger?
    There are already new tax penalties on smokers incorporated into PPACA to the tune of thousands of $$ per year...
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Maybe it's not about the taxation and more about the moralization...................just wondering...........................
    My question is how many of the users who voted no are also fat and/or smokers.
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    There are already new taxpenalties on smokers incorporated into PPACA to the tune of thousands of $$ per year...
    Can you cite a source for that?
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Can you cite a source for that?
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    WASHINGTON: Penalty could keep smokers out of health overhaul | Health & Science | CentreDaily.com
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