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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    dont know about there but cigarettes and junk food is already taxed here. so no need to make any extra taxes its already done.
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    I like this idea!
    Very kind of you to say...

    I have come to believe that all this social media, this inter-weaving of everyone with everything at all times has done nothing but exacerbate what use to be generally speaking only a small town concern. That being we've turned the country into a nation of busy-bodies.

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Why?

    Actually, I suspect BOTH cost LESS to taxpayers. Because they don't live as long on average.

    All the "studies" on "costs" of smokers and obsese conveniently leave off all the 2 decades+ of social security, medicare, medicaid, food stamps and all the rest that people who live really old cost.

    ALSO... the MOST anti-smoking people are ex-smokers. There is limited benefit in quitting along the way - so some. In short, a "smokers tax" should be against ANYONE who ever smoked a cigarette, a cigar or pot in the person's lifetime.

    As for obsesity, even being 20 pounds overweight is a known great health risk. Thus, anyone more than 5% over optimum weight (which tends to be very low) also then should pay the "obsesity" tax.

    In short, 95% of Americans would just be taxed more. Which, of course, again, is liberal control freakish - for which they alway search for ways to exempt themselves.
    Obesity hasn't been shown to drastically lower life expectancy. While it greatly increases the risk for a heart attack, it paradoxically also increase the survival rate of a heart attack. What obesity does do, is drastically increase the prevalence of chronic diseases with which it is associated with. Considering that 75% of health care spending goes to chronic diseases, that is a huge amount of cost added on to the system.

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    No. We should have a pure flat tax. No deductions. No credits. No penalties. No exceptions.

    Especially 'no' to this subject. What you do on your time should be your business.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Very kind of you to say...

    I have come to believe that all this social media, this inter-weaving of everyone with everything at all times has done nothing but exacerbate what use to be generally speaking only a small town concern. That being we've turned the country into a nation of busy-bodies.
    If I may... and condoned a government that wishes to interject itself into our personal lives in order to fund their gluttonous and wasteful spending on things to "protect us from ourselves"...
    Fool me once, shame on you.
    Fool me twice....shame on me.

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    If I may... and condoned a government that wishes to interject itself into our personal lives in order to fund their gluttonous and wasteful spending on things to "protect us from ourselves"...

    oh, you may, you may...

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    This guarantees poor health. There is NO benefit to smoking.
    this isn't completely true. it does seem to have a protective effect against ulcerative colitis, a disease which often manifests in ex-smokers when they finally quit.

    however, similar benefits may be achieved by chewing nicotine gum or by wearing a patch, so smoking is still not necessary.

    study in mice : Nicotine suppresses ... [Am J Physiol Gastrointest Liver Physiol. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI

    The effect of smoking on intestinal inflamm... [J Crohns Colitis. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI

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    Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    You already have cig taxes, right?

    Obesity is a more difficult one, taxes on purchased food items may correlate to level of eating, but not the exercise part.

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I saw this article and thought it would be a good poll. Personally, I don't see an issue with taxing smokers more especially. The article even points out that the poor smoke more than the rich.........how stupid is that? If you don't have any money, why are you doing something that is totally detrimental to your health and costs an arm and a leg? Full disclosure, I was a smoker and I dipped. I quit cold turkey in Afghanistan. By choice, not by circumstance. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done. But I'm so glad I did it.
    As far as obesity, it would have to be a little to technical to work. Personally, I don't accept any excuse for obesity other than a medical condition such as thyroid problems. It doesn't matter what your physical capabilities are. If you manage calories effectively, you can lose weight or at least maintain your current weight. You can call that harsh if you want and it may be. But it's true.
    Do penalties for smokers and the obese make sense? | Fox News
    Taxes, no. However, I do support health and life insurance companies giving deep annual rebates to the insured who meet healthy living benchmarks and support community health including:
    • *non-tobacco users
      *non-obese
      *low cholesterol
      *low triglycerides
      *regular blood donors
      *organ donor registrants
      *non-alcohol users
      *regular aerobic exercisers (joggers, swimmers, bikers, active health club members, etc.) demonstrated by low heart rate
      *non-recreational drug users
      *etc.
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Obviously, since we're CONSTANTLY told how smoking takes 10 years off of one's life, smokers should be given a LUMP SUM DISTRIBUTION of their Social Security equal to 10 years, or be given a REDUCTION in their taxes, since their dying earlier obviously makes them less of a burden to the state..........

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