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Thread: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Smoking is a personal choice thing while obesity is a bit more complicated. Many obese people are poor. They do not go and buy up fatty foods because they want to be fat, but rather because it is cheap. (Unhealthy Food Is Cheap Food.) (The Checkup - Junk food cheaper than healthful) Now, why are unhealthy foods such as McDonalds cheap? That's because the US government subsidies the meat, corn, rice and several other industries, thus lowering the price of the food. (For a Healthier Country, Overhaul Farm Subsidies: Scientific American) So you have poor people eating unhealthy foods and becoming obese because it is cheap and a government that enables this by subsidizing the essential ingredients in those unhealthy foods. Thus, if we want lower obesity, I think that we should end subsidies.

    EDIT: Please note, this does not mean that personal responsibility is not involved, but rather acknowledges the how such an issue is complicated and how circumstances beyond a person's control can somewhat force them into bad situations.
    Losing weight is all about caloric intake, not the food you eat. A doctor recently lost 20lbs in two months eating nothing but Twinkies and the like. Granted, I'm sure he didn't feel too good, but it illustrates the point.
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    the only major class that has escaped are drug users. We're to stupid to tax drugs for some strange reason.
    this!
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Losing weight is all about caloric intake, not the food you eat. A doctor recently lost 20lbs in two months eating nothing but Twinkies and the like. Granted, I'm sure he didn't feel too good, but it illustrates the point.
    That's true, but eating Twinkies isn't gonna make you healthy, now is it?
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    this! what? I don't understand.


    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    this!

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    this! what? I don't understand.
    It means he agrees with you.
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Thank you. My imagination went wild there for a moment.

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    It means he agrees with you.

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    We should also raise taxes on women who've had abortions...............

    And folks who drink too much coffee..........

    Of course, when even THESE taxes aren't enough to feed the beast, we can just tax people for just being alive, since it invariably leads to their deaths...........

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Why don't we start taxing people who want to butt their nose into how other people live their lives?

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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I saw this article and thought it would be a good poll. Personally, I don't see an issue with taxing smokers more especially. The article even points out that the poor smoke more than the rich.........how stupid is that? If you don't have any money, why are you doing something that is totally detrimental to your health and costs an arm and a leg? Full disclosure, I was a smoker and I dipped. I quit cold turkey in Afghanistan. By choice, not by circumstance. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done. But I'm so glad I did it.
    As far as obesity, it would have to be a little to technical to work. Personally, I don't accept any excuse for obesity other than a medical condition such as thyroid problems. It doesn't matter what your physical capabilities are. If you manage calories effectively, you can lose weight or at least maintain your current weight. You can call that harsh if you want and it may be. But it's true.
    Do penalties for smokers and the obese make sense? | Fox News
    Obese people and smokers cost less, generally, than do healthy people over time.
    The better question is, why don't we tax the healthy more?
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    Re: Should Taxes Be Raised On Citizens Who Smoke or are Obese?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Why don't we start taxing people who want to butt their nose into how other people live their lives?
    I like this idea!
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