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  • Christian (Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, or other)

    64 42.11%
  • Agnostic

    24 15.79%
  • Atheist

    37 24.34%
  • Muslim (Sunni, Shi'a, Sufi, or other)

    3 1.97%
  • Buddhist

    4 2.63%
  • Hindu

    1 0.66%
  • Jewish

    3 1.97%
  • Eastern Philosophy (Confucian, Taoist, Shinto, etc.)

    1 0.66%
  • Polytheist/Neo-pagan

    2 1.32%
  • Other

    13 8.55%
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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Zen Buddhist. Backed into it, to be honest. At the time I was a disgusted Christian, a lapsed Catholic, a refugee from organized religion and happy being that way. Zen made great sense to me. Buddhist philosophy makes great sense to me.










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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    you must know many religions advise you to avoid stealing ,gossiping , killing ,etc as well as practice of worship ,teachings ,rituals
    Very true. Every religion is made up of both Theology and Ritual/Practice. The Theology is what they claim to believe and the Ritual/Practice is the means through which they show their piety.

    When one looks at the theology of a large number of the religions, there are a great number of common ideals and values espoused. They claim to want Peace, Health, Law & Order, etc.... and to be against Theft, Rape, Murder, et al.... The problem comes that there's always a caveat, an exception, etc.... Live in peace with everyone (Except THOSE guys. It's okay to rob, cheat, steal, murder, rape THOSE people because WE'RE the Chosen Ones and they aren't). It's hypocritical and obviously so, if one takes a step back to look at it; and no religion/theology is truly free from that form of thinking. They've all been on both sides of the equation for thousands of years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    also l need to know what you mean by universal morality ? because your worldview seems a little authoritarian and despotic
    Why does every wolf pack have an Alpha, a Beta and an Omega? Why do herds of wild horses follow the lead Stallion and Mare? Why do salmon swim upstream to mate every year? Natural Instinct and Order. They were made that way for a particular reason and nature has maintained these social and instinctive traits for thousands of years. It is only humankind which believes it knows better than The Universe how things should work. We're the only species that I'm aware of that actively goes out of its way to ignore our instincts and nature at almost every single turn. Those instincts and nature ARE the basis for Universal Morality. Human beings learned to live together in a certain way, with certain roles, rules, and instinctive knowledge sharpened against nature's sharper edges. Then we became "Civilized" and have now thrown most of that knowledge away, to our detriment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    dont get me wrong ,l am trying to understand you
    No problem. I'm not 100% certain that I can explain it fully through this medium. I'm a much better verbal communicator than a writer.

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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    I see where you're coming from, but our natural explanations aren't all that. How did the universe come to be from nothing? Where did the first cell on earth come from? Did one cell really turn into today's humans? Personally, I think it makes just as much sense to say a God did all the above than to say it all happened by chance and a universe came from nothing at all.
    1. Only religious people make the claim that the universe came from nothing.
    2. The thing called a cell evolved to that point, it didnt just appear as a cell like magic.
    3. Evolution is more complex than everything came from the development of one cell.

    You may believe that the concept of a god makes as much sense but that does not mean that you have any evidence. On the other hand science can provide the evidence for origins to a certain extent.

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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    I simply consider myself a believer. I think there are two types of people in the world: those who need to be rescued by God and those who have been already. The entire human race is in need of God's rescue and most don't realize it. The confusing thing for many people there's the thought that being rescued by God is somehow equivalent to embracing some form of church culture, joining a religious group and abiding by the rules, rituals and traditions of that group. No, that is religion, which can be a deceptive counterfeit to being authentically rescued by God. Religion isn't always necessarily a bad thing but it should not be confused with God's rescue.

    First I realized I haven't led a perfect life. If I stole something 10 years ago or did some other bad thing followed by 10 years for of doing good deeds, that does not exonerate me from accountability for the bad thing I did. This is what I've found most people think being good enough for God means especially if they also join a church. Take the worst thing a person can do; most of us probably would say kill someone. There are no amount of good deeds and religious cultural conformity that will ever exonerate a person from the crime of killing another person. As I understand it, all "sins" as just as sinful to God and the only way justice can be fulfilled is if they are punished, period. Enter Jesus who came to the earth to be punished in our places. What then happens is if someone acknowledges they are guilty (many people think they are already good enough for God), has faith that Jesus was perfect but was punished in their place and then commits to a master/servant relationship with him, which will likely have mixed results considering we're still not perfect but at least we can be forgiven. At that point a supernatural event occurs where spiritually a new person is literally created superimposed on the old one. It is that new spiritually created person who has the ability to commune with God and makes a person a son or daughter of God who is a believer and no denomination or religion can produce that. That person can join a religion too and probably should but should not use religion as a replacement for an authentic new birth status with God.

    Anyway to answer the question... I go to a church with no denominational affiliation. There's an association with other churches however, most notably the Hillsong Movement. Promise Keepers founder Coach Bill McCartney has spoken at my church, TD Jakes is scheduled this year and our teens went to California last summer to volunteer at the LA Dream Center, to you you an idea.
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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Very true. Every religion is made up of both Theology and Ritual/Practice. The Theology is what they claim to believe and the Ritual/Practice is the means through which they show their piety.

    When one looks at the theology of a large number of the religions, there are a great number of common ideals and values espoused. They claim to want Peace, Health, Law & Order, etc.... and to be against Theft, Rape, Murder, et al.... The problem comes that there's always a caveat, an exception, etc.... Live in peace with everyone (Except THOSE guys. It's okay to rob, cheat, steal, murder, rape THOSE people because WE'RE the Chosen Ones and they aren't). It's hypocritical and obviously so, if one takes a step back to look at it; and no religion/theology is truly free from that form of thinking. They've all been on both sides of the equation for thousands of years.



    Why does every wolf pack have an Alpha, a Beta and an Omega? Why do herds of wild horses follow the lead Stallion and Mare? Why do salmon swim upstream to mate every year? Natural Instinct and Order. They were made that way for a particular reason and nature has maintained these social and instinctive traits for thousands of years. It is only humankind which believes it knows better than The Universe how things should work. We're the only species that I'm aware of that actively goes out of its way to ignore our instincts and nature at almost every single turn. Those instincts and nature ARE the basis for Universal Morality. Human beings learned to live together in a certain way, with certain roles, rules, and instinctive knowledge sharpened against nature's sharper edges. Then we became "Civilized" and have now thrown most of that knowledge away, to our detriment.

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    No problem. I'm not 100% certain that I can explain it fully through this medium. I'm a much better verbal communicator than a writer.
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    [B]we may be defined as smarter animals because we have both instinct and a brain ,which made us human during our evolutional process. so we are aware of our existence and thats why we have been trying to question the secrets of this universe and our genesis since we learnt to think.

    we developed our universal morality regardless of our instincts because the evolutional fact doesnt care about how we must act in a society.
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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    we may be defined as smarter animals because we have both instinct and a brain ,which made us human during our evolutional process. so we are aware of our existence and thats why we have been trying to question the secrets of this universe and our genesis since we learnt to think.
    I would suggest that we should be defined as more concieted rather than smarter. We believe that somehow we are outside of the natural order simply because we have a more highly developed sense of reason and tool building capability. On the other hand I would suggest that those capabilities exist as a means to test our Soul. To see whether we will do what we Should do or what we Can do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    we developed our universal morality regardless of our instincts because the evolutional fact doesnt care about how we must act in a society.
    Have you ever considered that the society we've created might just be Immoral itself?

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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Raised Catholic, studied to be a Priest at one point (even though I had no interest in altar boys). Now a member of the United Church of Christ, but I'm angry with my church, so we'll see what happens there.


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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Raised Catholic, studied to be a Priest at one point (even though I had no interest in altar boys). Now a member of the United Church of Christ, but I'm angry with my church, so we'll see what happens there.
    May we ask why?










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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    May we ask why?
    Well, they fired me from my position as a volunteer A/V guy. I also suspect that some members of the church helped my ex-wife move out, and are taking her "side" in the divorce.


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    None/Atheist.
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