View Poll Results: What is your religion?

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  • Christian (Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, or other)

    64 42.11%
  • Agnostic

    24 15.79%
  • Atheist

    37 24.34%
  • Muslim (Sunni, Shi'a, Sufi, or other)

    3 1.97%
  • Buddhist

    4 2.63%
  • Hindu

    1 0.66%
  • Jewish

    3 1.97%
  • Eastern Philosophy (Confucian, Taoist, Shinto, etc.)

    1 0.66%
  • Polytheist/Neo-pagan

    2 1.32%
  • Other

    13 8.55%
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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    I'm just curious and your post is so clear that I'll ask what is a simple question. It's not ment to be a put down. It is just to clarify how you are thinking and percieving stuff. So, what do you know to be a fact? High level please. thx
    Fact as it pertains to what exactly? Salvation? Jesus? God? The fate of our race?
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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Evolution demonstrates how the process of replication could give rise to the illusion of design. Organisms create copies of themselves, which create copies of themselves, to a possible endless sum of generations. Any errors in the copying process that are detrimental to the organism will cease its ability to replicate, while copying errors that are beneficial to replication will lead to that errors' dominance. After numerous generations, the successful replicators will seem to be designed for effectiveness, when in reality it is the simple accumulation of that organisms' accidentally successful copying errors that had lead to effective replicating. There is no design or intelligence in the process at all.
    Evolution is a theory that MAY explain how the replication process could give rise to an illusion of design. It has not been proven. It is known that cellular organisms have become more complex, it is not known EXACTLY how that happened.


    Quote Originally Posted by brothern
    John von Neumann demonstrated proof in the 1950s that it is theoretically possible for a simple physical system to make exact copies of itself from surrounding materials. His work. Since then we have identified numerous molecules and crystals that can replicate in ways that would spawn natural selection. You can view some of them here.
    I find NO useful information in Mr. von Newmann's simple machine and the evolution of living organisms, except an illusion of similarity.

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern
    Beyond that, I believe you should be introduced to the Argument from Ignorance:

    1. There are things that we cannot explain yet.
    2. God did it.

    It is an informal logical fallacy that claims only a proposition is true only because it has not been proved as false. It represents a false dichotomy between true and false, and ignores the third option; that there is insufficient information available to prove the proposition true or false. In other words, Point 2 does not logically follow Point 1. I could have simply written -

    1. There are thing that we cannot explain yet.
    2. A wild hedgehog wearing a flower-print tea cozy did it.
    Allow me to introduce you to the Corollary of Close Mindedness:

    1. Atheism believes that all physical changes are explained by science.
    2. I believe there is no god.
    3. Despite the fact that there is no scientific understanding of how matter changes from all inorganic to a living cell, it cannot possibly indicate there might be a god, because of #2.

    From your statement: It represents a false dichotomy between true and false, and ignores the third option; that there is insufficient information available to prove the proposition true or false.

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern
    Explained above.
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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    I'm an atheist. Let me be super clear on what I mean when I say that.

    What I mean is that I don't have a belief in any deity. It does not mean I am making a positive claim that no deity exists.

    I simply have no reason to believe in any of the deities humanity currently has on offer, or any theoretical situation that may accommodate a deity that has as of yet been presented to me.

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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Agnostic.

    1991 I left the lutheran church, cause I couldn´t agree with her no longer.
    I don´t believe in god, but it don´t matter me if he should exist.

    I accept religious believes until they hurt human rights. It sadden me that christian churches often hurt the human rights.
    Last edited by jschie; 01-31-13 at 03:51 AM.

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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    From what I've noticed people give Evangelicals a bad rap over our mainstream views on social issues or the notion that we are sheeples to Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, and Rick Santorum.
    ...and just to add some color to this, I consider myself an Evangelical and generally a political liberal (though, admittedly, I am conservative on several social issues).

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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I'm an atheist. Let me be super clear on what I mean when I say that.

    What I mean is that I don't have a belief in any deity. It does not mean I am making a positive claim that no deity exists.

    I simply have no reason to believe in any of the deities humanity currently has on offer, or any theoretical situation that may accommodate a deity that has as of yet been presented to me.
    “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” supposedly a Mahatma Gandhi quote.

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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Deist
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    Atheist I guess. Was a Christian, didn't work out, and I just don't see religion ever being a primary aspect of my life again. I'll leave religion to the theists and theologists.
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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    I've been an atheist my whole life. I'll leave it at that.
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    Re: What is your religious denomination?

    I'm a closet Otherkin. I'm one of those who believe they have something other than a human soul. Such as my name I chose implies. So this means my spirituality will be a bit odd even for those who are not traditional or who consider themselves neo-pagan.
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