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    Re: Do You Believe Covert Warfare Is Ethical?

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    Re: Do You Believe Covert Warfare Is Ethical?

    Now there is a war. Unless she is really the boss and you just play king when you aint at home there is gonna be trouble in the kingdom.
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    Re: Do You Believe Covert Warfare Is Ethical?

    War isn't ethical.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Do You Believe Covert Warfare Is Ethical?

    Replying to OP: If it's saving American lives (or innocent lives of whatever nationality) then I'm all for it although I don't know that I would call it ethical and I think it would all come down to the particular situation.
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    Re: Do You Believe Covert Warfare Is Ethical?

    Ethics, in self defense both on a national and a personalized level, are of little importance to me outside of their own impact on that defense.

    I think willingly taking anything off the table when it's not clearly and verifiably...or at least believably...taken off the table from the other side is foolish and irresponsible.

    In general, I think it's beneficial, in terms of your own defense, to seem "better" than the enemy. This likely means both not going to the same extent in some cases when it's unnecessary AND in other cases taking action and taking great care to wash your hands of official oversight of said action.

    However I think often times its necessary, and reasonable, for a country to take "unethical" actions in the name of protecting. But it must always way the risk vs reward of all the potential variables involved in the action.

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    Re: Do You Believe Covert Warfare Is Ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    War isn't ethical.
    It is always ethical to kill your enemies before they can kill you.
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    Re: Do You Believe Covert Warfare Is Ethical?

    Only if it is self defense. I can see Afgahanasn possibly being a threat, years ago. Iraq I dont think ever attacked our borders.
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    Re: Do You Believe Covert Warfare Is Ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    It is always ethical to kill your enemies before they can kill you.
    Doesn't that depend on the way your go about killing your enemies? I mean we could nuke all of our enemies to kingdom come. But, that wouldn't be very ethical, would it?

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    Re: Do You Believe Covert Warfare Is Ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Doesn't that depend on the way your go about killing your enemies? I mean we could nuke all of our enemies to kingdom come. But, that wouldn't be very ethical, would it?
    Wouldn't be very smart either, ever hear of something called a nuclear winter? Besides, just because someone lives in a enemy country, doesn't make them an enemy. Non-enemies and innocents are generally referred to as "collateral damage" if they get killed and that should be minimized to the greatest extent possible.

    Capturing an enemy and torturing him/her to death would be not be ethical. Torture is never ethical. Just killing them is ok though, as long as you don't use torture, since it is the torture that is not ethical. A 1000 yard shot with a .50 Cal sniper rifle is ok though. Even using a drone is ok, as long as you can minimize collateral damage.
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    Re: Do You Believe Covert Warfare Is Ethical?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Only if it is self defense. I can see Afgahanasn possibly being a threat, years ago. Iraq I dont think ever attacked our borders.
    He did however sponsor and train terrorist, PLO and others, that did attack and kill members of our military and attacked our allies. He also shot at our troops and locked up our aircraft with anti-aircraft systems regularly. He was definitely and enemy.

    Always better to get them before they get to our borders, not after. Ask Clinton, oh, wait, he didn't kill them before they attacked in the US.
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