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    Re: Should we be sending F16 fighter planes to Egypt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Screw that, they are not keeping their end of the agreement why should we?
    What have they done that implies that they "are not keeping their end of the agreement"?


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    Re: Should we be sending F16 fighter planes to Egypt?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What have they done that implies that they "are not keeping their end of the agreement"?
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    Re: Should we be sending F16 fighter planes to Egypt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Do you ever watch the news?
    Yes i do. But can you tell me please...


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    Re: Should we be sending F16 fighter planes to Egypt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Screw that, they are not keeping their end of the agreement why should we?
    What conditions of the agreement have they violated? I have no idea what the conditions were in this particular case, I'm guessing you don't either.

    Look, NP. It's like this. You can't take a loan out from a bank, and then later decide you're not going to make payments any more just because you don't like the bank's policies. If the US government made an agreement, we need to honor that agreement.

    It's important that the United States of America keeps its reputation of standing by its word, don't you think?

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    Re: Should we be sending F16 fighter planes to Egypt?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    What conditions of the agreement have they violated? I have no idea what the conditions were in this particular case, I'm guessing you don't either.

    Look, NP. It's like this. You can't take a loan out from a bank, and then later decide you're not going to make payments any more just because you don't like the bank's policies. If the US government made an agreement, we need to honor that agreement.

    It's important that the United States of America keeps its reputation of standing by its word, don't you think?
    It's more like Egypt requesting a loan from the bank, and before the bank actually gives the money out, Egypt makes it clear the money is intended for use against the interests of the bank (USA). If we don't give them the F-16s, then they don't owe us the money for the sale. "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone," is a well understood concept. It should be employed here, just as is possible in any other business arrangement.
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    Re: Should we be sending F16 fighter planes to Egypt?

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    It's more like Egypt requesting a loan from the bank, and before the bank actually gives the money out, Egypt makes it clear the money is intended for use against the interests of the bank (USA). If we don't give them the F-16s, then they don't owe us the money for the sale. "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone," is a well understood concept. It should be employed here, just as is possible in any other business arrangement.
    Actually, no it is not. International trade agreements don't operate like 7-Elevens. When you sign a contract, you cannot simply terminate that contract however you want - you can only terminate the contract under terms specified in the contract. Ever rented an apartment before? You can't just move out and stop paying rent. You are bound by the terms of the contract to pay rent until the end of the time period specified.

    No one here is privy to the terms under which we are delivering F-16s to the Egyptians. Likely, it's not simple matter of saying "we don't want to give you F-16s anymore because we don't feel like it".

    Destroying our reputation by not abiding to terms of agreements we make would be very damaging to us - equivalent to ****ing your credit score by not paying back your loans - no one will want to sign future agreements with you anymore if they don't trust you to hold up your end of the bargain.

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    Re: Should we be sending F16 fighter planes to Egypt?

    Send them to Egypt so they will be nice to Israel....even though Israel is the only country they would use them against.

    Stupid, expensive thinking by our government.
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    Re: Should we be sending F16 fighter planes to Egypt?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I could care less who they are we should not sell or give our weapons to any country.Allies can turn into enemies and they could use those against our own troops and civilians.
    Not selling outdated military equipment is economic and political suicide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    no. we should be sending food and medicine. that should be our new foreign policy.
    The US sends more food and medicine around the world, in aid, than any other country. And no one is stopping you personally, be the change.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 01-27-13 at 10:10 PM.

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    Re: Should we be sending F16 fighter planes to Egypt?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post

    The US sends more food and medicine around the world, in aid, than any other country. And no one is stopping you personally, be the change.
    i try to spread peace and kindness where i can.

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    Re: Should we be sending F16 fighter planes to Egypt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i try to spread peace and kindness where i can.
    Ok but expecting the government to take care of things when you don't personally, and ignoring that the US is doing so better than any country in the world, is kinda meh. It's a hollow objection.

    And it's not like we can magically turn those f16s, and the R&D that went into them, into food. Egypt is free to sell them, to approved countries, and buy food. Why is it our bad?
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