While I do think that a stable couple is best for the children, the only thing a marriage license does is make it more expensive on everyone if it ends.
l can agree with you but money isnt everything in the life .nothing can substitute for a real family.
It is THOSE children that the Catholic church should take the most interest in. Yes, if parents bring a child in to be baptized, they should baptize them WITHOUT prejudice! It is NOT their place to make judgments. Is it? IF they truly cared, they would willingly baptize any and every child that they could.
YOU are just making excuses for an AWFUL practice of denying the innocent the chance to be cleansed of original sin.
The beginning of a person's spiritual journey must begin with a real commitment on the part of their caretakers to inculcate them in to the community from which they receive baptism.
The common thread I perceive in your posts is a difference between what you and others think "commitment" means. To your parents, Catholic baptism obviously did not mean enough to bother. Their needs were serviced by another church.
What level of commitment today do they have to the church in which you were baptised? What commitment do YOU have to that church?
The beginning of a person's spiritual journey must begin with a real commitment on the part of their caretakers to inculcate them in to the community from which they receive baptism.
The common thread I perceive in your posts is a difference between what you and others think "commitment" means. To your parents, Catholic baptism obviously did not mean enough to bother. Their needs were serviced by another church.
What level of commitment today do they have to the church in which you were baptised? What commitment do YOU have to that church?
Yes, although I also personally believe that people should wait until they are married before having sex.
The Catholic Church has no problem with divorce (as a last resort, of course). It's problem is that, if the marriage was sanctioned by the Catholic Church to begin with? Any remarriage is considered adultery.
There is no mechanism for divorce in the Catholic church.
Getting baptized isn't a "you wash my hands, I'll wash yours" kind of situation. Please. All innocent children are entitled to be cleansed of original sin. They are not to be judged beforehand. That is WRONG, and you should know that. Good LORD! Do you really think your religion does no wrong. It is man-made after all. :roll: I don't think God would approve, or Jesus for that matter, shunning little babies.
Baaah! I don't want to talk about it right now. It's making me feel cranky and agitated.
You didn't answer my questions. You seem pretty certain about what you think the church is obligated to give you. What do you think you're obligated to give the church?
Religious marriage is pointless, it has no legal weight. You can walk down all the aisles in all the churches you want, you're not married until you get that piece of paper from the state.
There is no mechanism for divorce in the Catholic church.
I don't have to give anything to the church. How about I sacrifice a goat or a lamb? Will that suffice?
BTW, where in the Bible does it say that we have to make a trade off in order to be cleansed from original sin? I didn't realize that was a service that you had to pay for.
You didn't answer my questions. You seem pretty certain about what you think the church is obligated to give you. What do you think you're obligated to give the church?
Besides, if they followed the TRUE word of God, they would baptize any little baby, regardless of what THEY might get out of it. That is just sinful and shameful to deny ANYONE.
I'm pleasantly surprised at the results of this poll.
It's dumb. The question shoul dhave been "Will YOU wait until marriage before having sex".
All this poll shows is the number of people who want to enforce their vision of morality on everyone else.
What does a ''conservative'' life style mean??
MaggieD said the church is OK with divorce. That statement was false and I was correcting the record.
Respectfully, I don't think this thread is intended to address those dysfunctional couples where the woman picks a complete idiot to father her children.