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Should people wait until marriage to have children?

Should people wait until marriage to have children?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 77.5%
  • No

    Votes: 3 4.2%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 2 2.8%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 11 15.5%

  • Total voters
    71
Obviously people who were lucky enough to be born into families where constant fighting and volatility is not a factor would not understand.
 
While I do think that a stable couple is best for the children, the only thing a marriage license does is make it more expensive on everyone if it ends.

And if that's the thoughts going through your head, you're not committed enough to have children.
 
l can agree with you but money isnt everything in the life .nothing can substitute for a real family.

I agree with this. Staying married or getting married for the sake of children might keep a family more financially stable, but it is certainly no guarantee of happiness for anyone involved. :shrug:
 
It is THOSE children that the Catholic church should take the most interest in. Yes, if parents bring a child in to be baptized, they should baptize them WITHOUT prejudice! It is NOT their place to make judgments. Is it? IF they truly cared, they would willingly baptize any and every child that they could.

YOU are just making excuses for an AWFUL practice of denying the innocent the chance to be cleansed of original sin.

The beginning of a person's spiritual journey must begin with a real commitment on the part of their caretakers to inculcate them in to the community from which they receive baptism.

The common thread I perceive in your posts is a difference between what you and others think "commitment" means. To your parents, Catholic baptism obviously did not mean enough to bother. Their needs were serviced by another church.

What level of commitment today do they have to the church in which you were baptised? What commitment do YOU have to that church?
 
The beginning of a person's spiritual journey must begin with a real commitment on the part of their caretakers to inculcate them in to the community from which they receive baptism.

The common thread I perceive in your posts is a difference between what you and others think "commitment" means. To your parents, Catholic baptism obviously did not mean enough to bother. Their needs were serviced by another church.

What level of commitment today do they have to the church in which you were baptised? What commitment do YOU have to that church?

There is no God..there is no church..do I want my children baptised by Gays..the answer is no..

It is a community for lonely people..old people..who are all fooling themselves..
 
The beginning of a person's spiritual journey must begin with a real commitment on the part of their caretakers to inculcate them in to the community from which they receive baptism.

The common thread I perceive in your posts is a difference between what you and others think "commitment" means. To your parents, Catholic baptism obviously did not mean enough to bother. Their needs were serviced by another church.

What level of commitment today do they have to the church in which you were baptised? What commitment do YOU have to that church?

Getting baptized isn't a "you wash my hands, I'll wash yours" kind of situation. Please. All innocent children are entitled to be cleansed of original sin. They are not to be judged beforehand. That is WRONG, and you should know that. Good LORD! Do you really think your religion does no wrong. It is man-made after all. :roll: I don't think God would approve, or Jesus for that matter, shunning little babies.

Baaah! I don't want to talk about it right now. It's making me feel cranky and agitated.
 
Yes, although I also personally believe that people should wait until they are married before having sex.

While I won't go that far, I do think people shouldn't be screwing up a storm 5 minutes after meeting. People need to be responsible for their actions and today, far too many people aren't.
 
I certainly think so, although I don't think just being married is a license to breed uncontrollably. You should be ready to breed before you do. That means being financially prepared, emotionally prepared, have provided a stable home environment, etc. I think that absolutely requires a legal and public commitment to remaining together in the long-term. It's far too easy to get out of a marriage today. Marriage should be tough to get into and damn difficult to get out of. Breeding shouldn't something that just happens, it should be something that is seriously planned for.
 
The Catholic Church has no problem with divorce (as a last resort, of course). It's problem is that, if the marriage was sanctioned by the Catholic Church to begin with? Any remarriage is considered adultery.

There is no mechanism for divorce in the Catholic church.
 
There is no mechanism for divorce in the Catholic church.

Religious marriage is pointless, it has no legal weight. You can walk down all the aisles in all the churches you want, you're not married until you get that piece of paper from the state.
 
Getting baptized isn't a "you wash my hands, I'll wash yours" kind of situation. Please. All innocent children are entitled to be cleansed of original sin. They are not to be judged beforehand. That is WRONG, and you should know that. Good LORD! Do you really think your religion does no wrong. It is man-made after all. :roll: I don't think God would approve, or Jesus for that matter, shunning little babies.

Baaah! I don't want to talk about it right now. It's making me feel cranky and agitated.

You didn't answer my questions. You seem pretty certain about what you think the church is obligated to give you. What do you think you're obligated to give the church?
 
You didn't answer my questions. You seem pretty certain about what you think the church is obligated to give you. What do you think you're obligated to give the church?

I don't have to give anything to the church. How about I sacrifice a goat or a lamb? Will that suffice?

BTW, where in the Bible does it say that we have to make a trade off in order to be cleansed from original sin? I didn't realize that was a service that you had to pay for.
 
Religious marriage is pointless, it has no legal weight. You can walk down all the aisles in all the churches you want, you're not married until you get that piece of paper from the state.

MaggieD said the church is OK with divorce. That statement was false and I was correcting the record.
 
There is no mechanism for divorce in the Catholic church.

Well, at least when one does get a divorce, they aren't denied the sacraments. (Unless they make the awful mistake of remarrying.)
 
I'm pleasantly surprised at the results of this poll.
 
I don't have to give anything to the church. How about I sacrifice a goat or a lamb? Will that suffice?

BTW, where in the Bible does it say that we have to make a trade off in order to be cleansed from original sin? I didn't realize that was a service that you had to pay for.

Responding to the gift of grace and salvation makes a truly penitent person humble and desirous to serve their community. Since a priest is a representative of a spiritual community, it is natural to serve the community he represents. That is what is meant by communion.

No, you don't owe God a dime. But to quote Credence Clearwater Revival, "you don't need a penny just to hang around, but if you have a nickel, won't you lay your money down?"
 
You didn't answer my questions. You seem pretty certain about what you think the church is obligated to give you. What do you think you're obligated to give the church?

Shouldn't the question be, what do I do for humanity? Well, I don't have much free time but when I can (and have the funds), I donate money to the cancer fund as well as Shriners Hospital and a local animal shelter. Also, I TRY to be the best person I can be and treat everyone as well as I can (at least MOST of the time) among other little personal things. Also, around Thanksgiving time, I go with my aunt to the food pantry and help out doing whatever they need me to do (whether that be getting bags of groceries together, doing inventory, passing out bags of groceries to people, etc.)

And what do YOU do?

Besides, if they followed the TRUE word of God, they would baptize any little baby, regardless of what THEY might get out of it. That is just sinful and shameful to deny ANYONE.
 
Besides, if they followed the TRUE word of God, they would baptize any little baby, regardless of what THEY might get out of it. That is just sinful and shameful to deny ANYONE.

If they followed Scripture, they wouldn't be baptizing any babies. But I digress....
 
I'm pleasantly surprised at the results of this poll.

It's dumb. The question shoul dhave been "Will YOU wait until marriage before having sex".

All this poll shows is the number of people who want to enforce their vision of morality on everyone else.
 
It's dumb. The question shoul dhave been "Will YOU wait until marriage before having sex".

All this poll shows is the number of people who want to enforce their vision of morality on everyone else.

It's not about having sex. And just because people have an opinion doesn't mean they want to force their view on other people. You can do whatever you want - it's just my opinion that you should wait until marriage to have kids.
 
What does a ''conservative'' life style mean??

Good question. For me its early to bed and early to rise. Working hard and applying yourself. Doing things right. Being 15 minutes early and never being late. Staying away from vices like drugs, gambling and stuff which destroys people and marriages. Putting family first. Doing the other things I mentioned like finishing school, working a job and giving your employer an honest days work for an honest days pay, raising your kids properly, appreciating those who love and care for you and who make life easier for you. Staying in excellent physical shape through good nutrition and lots of exercise. Keeping your mind sharp. Having a long range view and plan and not succumbing to the allure of the short run gain. And I am probably leaving out tons of important stuff.
 
Absolutely !
The children are first and foremost
The marriage second
The man and woman third.
 
MaggieD said the church is OK with divorce. That statement was false and I was correcting the record.

I understand that, I wasn't criticizing your answer, just pointing out that the question itself was pointless. :)
 
Respectfully, I don't think this thread is intended to address those dysfunctional couples where the woman picks a complete idiot to father her children.

Actually, those types of couples are definitely a major part of this issue.

I wouldn't even call most of those women a "woman" though. Most of them are KIDS, 14-20 year olds that get pregnant because they don't understand that their actions can have serious consequences. The father usually ends up disappearing within a few years (if even that) and then the child mother who is incapable of taking care of herself and her children is left on her own.
 
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Sure. Unless, of course, they can't get married due to their sexuality.
 
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