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    Re: Should people wait until marriage to have children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Yes. At the expense of their spouse and their children. And, for the most part, their own long-term interests.
    It's none of your business why anyone else splits. If that's what's important to you then get married and have children. I'm quite sure that MOST people who divorce have given it a lot of thought and probably feel it is best for all parties involved. Who are you to undermine their decisions or assume they made the wrong decision just because it is something you wouldn't do?

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    Re: Should people wait until marriage to have children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    I'm fine with premarital casual sex and whatnot, but birth control should be used.

    Do you know what the poverty rate in the US is for families that wait until marriage to have children and stay married? 2%.

    The poverty rate for the general population is 13%, more than six times as high. Plus, children that grow up in single parent households are much more likely to end up involved in criminal activity.

    I look down on people that have children outside of marriage. They are hurting their children, their families, themselves, and their country.

    Also I'm an atheist so religion has nothing to do with why I believe this.
    I really think it depends on the people. Some people are very bad, abusive parents. Being married doesn't make them a better person.

    The poverty numbers reflect that people who are poor are less likely to wait until they get married. Being married doesn't make them rich all of a sudden.


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    Re: Should people wait until marriage to have children?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No problem. And I did find a rich lady. She has a billion dollar smile and a personality worth more than a bucket filled with jewels. It may sound corny but I had this image of the perfect girl in my head for a while and when I saw here in college one day, I knew in a manner of a few minutes.

    It took here a while to come around. But then she is a lot smarter than me.

    One thing she says is that 'every pot has a lid'. I hope everybody can find the one that fits for them.
    I did the opposite..left a rich man for a poor man...I had so much gold..diamonds..but I wasn't happy...

    I am happier with a man who makes me laugh..loves me..and we face life's problems together..he has a beautiful heart....

    Aw..I'm gettin soppy now..

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    Re: Should people wait until marriage to have children?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I'm only thirty. My parents, however, fought through tough years themselves, and taught me both explicitly and through example the same that I've written above. They learned it in turn from their parents (though to be fair, more my dad's). The model works, as it has for generations.



    and Thank God for that . I'm looking forward to the journey.
    I wish you a long and happy marriage that said you are only 30 and took your wife off to Japan "maybe against her will" where she could not escape. I thought I was happily married "16 years" the first time and in fact I was but my first wife was apparently not happy, I am lucky she did not dispose of me in my sleep. Wife number two "10 miserable year" proved that I had a mental problem but some times the physical attraction over rides the emotional turmoil and clear warnings that this is not good.

    Now CP i can tell you from experience in the state where I live 50% of every thing you have worked for is gone, multiply 50% x 2, and then add in child support it's not a pretty picture. After divorce #2 I tried a new strategy I found a lady from another country we lasted 7 years and now I am trying and have been for four years a southern lady but at the moment it is not looking to good. So you are 30 and feel like you have made it, it is to bad we can't read our partners mind then maybe we could feel more secure and do the real things to keep one another happy.

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    Re: Should people wait until marriage to have children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    I do. If you're in a committed relationship and want to have children that is what marriage is for. If you're not committed enough to get married, then you are ****ing lying to yourself if you think you're committed enough to have children.
    People get married when they maybe shouldn't be married. I'm in the middle of a bitter divorce in which my ex is keeping me from seeing our children. We were married for almost 9 years before becoming parents, so we were a fairly solid, stable couple.

    Doesn't matter anymore.

    While I do think that a stable couple is best for the children, the only thing a marriage license does is make it more expensive on everyone if it ends.


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    Re: Should people wait until marriage to have children?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    I did the opposite..left a rich man for a poor man...I had so much gold..diamonds..but I wasn't happy...

    I am happier with a man who makes me laugh..loves me..and we face life's problems together..he has a beautiful heart....

    Aw..I'm gettin soppy now..
    that is a great story. I am very happy for you. You just made my day.

    btw - when I said 'rich' it was not money by any stretch of the imagination. If I remember our first year of marriage, we made less than five grand and it was a slow climb each year from there. We ended up really well and comfortable. But again that goes back to a conservative life style and working those full time jobs.
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    Re: Should people wait until marriage to have children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    I do. If you're in a committed relationship and want to have children that is what marriage is for. If you're not committed enough to get married, then you are ****ing lying to yourself if you think you're committed enough to have children.
    It all depends on how you view marriage. I am happily married with 1 kid and 1 one the way. But I don't think a couple needs a slip of paper from the government to tell them where their relationship is.

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    Re: Should people wait until marriage to have children?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    that is a great story. I am very happy for you. You just made my day.

    btw - when I said 'rich' it was not money by any stretch of the imagination. If I remember our first year of marriage, we made less than five grand and it was a slow climb each year from there. We ended up really well and comfortable. But again that goes back to a conservative life style and working those full time jobs.
    What does a ''conservative'' life style mean??

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    Re: Should people wait until marriage to have children?

    People should not engage in conduct that imposes costs on others. Some wealthy people who can provide completely for a child with no husband or wife can raise a child properly as a single parent. Most cannot. Having children out of marriage is the single best predictor if a child will end up in poverty or in jail



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    Re: Should people wait until marriage to have children?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    People should not engage in conduct that imposes costs on others. Some wealthy people who can provide completely for a child with no husband or wife can raise a child properly as a single parent. Most cannot. Having children out of marriage is the single best predictor if a child will end up in poverty or in jail
    l can agree with you but money isnt everything in the life .nothing can substitute for a real family.
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