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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the sister poll to this would be

    do you want to see previously law abiding citizens and cops being killed as a result?
    ...and yet another related poll....

    Do you think hyperbole is constructive to argument?

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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Joe cannot sue me SUCCESSFULLY if I had no reasonable belief that snake had a record etc

    If I ascertained that Snake had a CCW or if I saw him buy a weapon from a dealer after the dealer called NICS then I would be safe.

    If however, I personally knew that Snake was a felon or under indictment, I'd be toast as well as be in violation of federal law
    And, if you didn't check out Snake at all, just took his money and gave him the gun, and if Joe had a really smart lawyer, I'd not want to be in your shoes.

    Gun registration and background checks are good ideas. They won't keep all guns out of the hands of felons, but they would help, and they would protect the sellers.

    And, if Snake gets caught with a gun, then the cops know it is not registered and he isn't supposed to have it.
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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    And, if you didn't check out Snake at all, just took his money and gave him the gun, and if Joe had a really smart lawyer, I'd not want to be in your shoes.

    Gun registration and background checks are good ideas. They won't keep all guns out of the hands of felons, but they would help, and they would protect the sellers.

    And, if Snake gets caught with a gun, then the cops know it is not registered and he isn't supposed to have it.
    no gun registration is not a good idea since

    1) it cannot be applied to criminals due to 5th amendment concerns

    2) is not something the government properly has the power to do

    3) based on the divulgence of gun permit holders' residences in NY can be abused by crooked cops or media whores

    4) facilitates confiscation or taxation

    5) and if Snake is a felon it doesn't matter if the gun is registered or not-he will be charged for possession but he cannot be charged for failure to register it



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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ...and yet another related poll....

    Do you think hyperbole is constructive to argument?

    like using dead children to advance an agenda that has no intention of saving children?



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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Ö The point of the 2nd Amendment is that is that since it is necessary for an organized militia to exist and today we would recognize it as equivalent to the armed forces in particular as the ARMY and MARINES then as a consequence to protect the citizenry from possible actions that the government may use these forces against them it sates that we can be armed against those forces to protect our lives and rights. Today I would include in the "organized militia" those agencies of the Federal Government that have police powers such as the DEA and the ATF. The FBI is more an investigatory agency though they may be included to some extent. The DEA in particular is more a paramilitary orginization than others in our government and is also one reason that I support the end on the war against drugs.
    It seems irrational to me that a government would make a rule that if any part of the population didnít like the government he or they could use their guns to remove the government and replace it. Shadow can you reference for us the historical documentation that supports your POV on what the 2nd was intended to do.

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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    like using dead children to advance an agenda that has no intention of saving children?
    Liberals use dead children all the time.

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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Plus, as part of the background checks, I'd like to see the semi-insane prohibited from gun ownership. "Privacy" , that, IMO, is used to disguise criminal activity.
    This is a difficult matter, the privacy of those seeking medical treatment for mental illness. I certainly don't want to see anyone unfairly stigmatized. But there needs to be mechanisms in place for social workers, doctors, and police to act quickly in certain potentially dangerous situations.

    Also, the question of those with serious mental illness living in a home where guns are available and possibly not secure. This is where police should be taking action, visiting homes and going over safe storage procedures. In extreme situations, (schizophrenia, manic-depression) if it appears that a relative is unwilling to comply with reasonable safe storage and security of firearms, then police should be able to take action to protect that family and the community at large. Let mental health professionals determine what the criteria are and allow for a court to review the case after guns have been removed from the home, but waiting until a case has been 'adjudicated' is not always prudent, as the stress of potential confinement may drive a patient to violent action.

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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Liberals use dead children all the time.
    Have liberals lined up on public streets with large graphic pictures of dead children with gunshot wounds ?? Or do liberals post graphic gun-violence photos on billboards? No. And No.

    Conservatives Pro-lifers do this, use graphic pictures of abortions further their cause.

    Extreme Conservative exploit the most defenseless and innocent 'children', the unborn. Extreme conservatives exploit those they claim to be protecting, the unborn.

    When you point the finger at someone else, two fingers are usually pointed back at you -- that's all I'm saying.

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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by mr4anarchy View Post
    Have liberals lined up on public streets with large graphic pictures of dead children with gunshot wounds ?? Or do liberals post graphic gun-violence photos on billboards? No. And No.

    Conservatives Pro-lifers do this, use graphic pictures of abortions further their cause.

    Extreme Conservative exploit the most defenseless and innocent 'children', the unborn. Extreme conservatives exploit those they claim to be protecting, the unborn.

    When you point the finger at someone else, two fingers are usually pointed back at you -- that's all I'm saying.
    You are missing the hidden message- Liberals do not care about people in general. They are the party of " do as I say, not as I do"

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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    You are missing the hidden message- Liberals do not care about people in general. They are the party of " do as I say, not as I do"
    That would be authoritarians, not liberals in general. There are conservative authoritarians as well as liberal ones.
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