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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    In a lot of polls I don't vote because the options often don't fit my ideas on the subject. This one was simple enough, though.
    I don't vote sometimes because of that too. If there is no "other" option and I can't agree I won't vote, but a lot of times I just forget to vote after I post. I remembered this time though.

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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So are you saying that, instead of confiscation, the govt should draft those who have assault weapons into a militia?
    I think they essentially are in a militia, but one that has almost no rules or training required. I think a bit of training and some testing would be a good thing; but not near as much as those that carry assault weapons in our active military. And going over some instructions on how to report when called etc.

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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Yes, it's another gun thread.


    My greatest concern regarding the discussion about gun control is that it there seems to be some support for requiring gun owners turn over certain types of weapons that they currently legally own. I'm curious how extensive this support is. I'm not asking if you think such measures will ever be taken. I also realize there's another poll similar to this one, but that one's in terms of what you're willing to accept. I'd like to know, if you could have it your way, would you want to see confiscation or requiring that gun owners turn over "assault" (whatever that means to you) and/or military style weapons?

    (hat tip to the member who gave me the idea for this poll, you know who you are )
    I said "Don't know" but a better characterization would be "Don't care."

    Like most things people in this country care about, its not an issue that is worth the attention or effort that goes into it from either side of the aisle.
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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    I said "Don't know" but a better characterization would be "Don't care."

    Like most things people in this country care about, its not an issue that is worth the attention or effort that goes into it from either side of the aisle.
    It most certainly is worth the attention. Without a guarantee of constitutional rights, they will be slowly eroded away. I would venture to say that the majority of people in this country would adamantly defend our right to free speech, freedom of assembly, and right not to have our persons/property searched and seized without due cause, but as we have seen over the past twelve years, if we don't defend it, and look the other way, while politicians intrude on our rights, they get slowly trampled upon. The second amendment is every bit as important as any other right, and could essentially be considered THE most important, as it is the only one that, in the end, gives the populace any teeth whatsoever.
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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    .. The second amendment is every bit as important as any other right, and could essentially be considered THE most important, as it is the only one that, in the end, gives the populace any teeth whatsoever.
    I want to understand how the teeth could be effectively used. Please give us some examples of this. And some details if they have been used in the past. Thanks.

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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I notice that a lot of people from other countries have a hard time with the concept of our rights. They just don't seem to understand how important they are.
    All too many people from this country also have a hard time with the concept of our rights.
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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    It most certainly is worth the attention. Without a guarantee of constitutional rights, they will be slowly eroded away. I would venture to say that the majority of people in this country would adamantly defend our right to free speech, freedom of assembly, and right not to have our persons/property searched and seized without due cause, but as we have seen over the past twelve years, if we don't defend it, and look the other way, while politicians intrude on our rights, they get slowly trampled upon. The second amendment is every bit as important as any other right, and could essentially be considered THE most important, as it is the only one that, in the end, gives the populace any teeth whatsoever.
    The right to form well-regulated militias is very important, as is the right of an individual to own guns, but can various regulations being put into place which restrict which kinds of guns that can be owned really be said to restrict the actual right? People would still have the right to own guns, after all.

    When people resort to slippery slope arguments, they deal in absolutes and argue, not from the position of what is actually advocated, but where it might lead. As such, they are indulging in fallacious reasoning, since they are dealing in hypotheticals. Indeed, one could just as easily argue that lack of such regulation will lead to people having the right to walk around with suitcase nukes. After all, if we are to argue the extreme end product at one end, why not the other?

    Instead of dealing in the absolutes of slippery slope fallacies, though, why not deal with the issue in terms of where along a continuum we wish to place the ownership of weapons? We already restrict which kinds of weapons can be owned by which kinds of people, and so perhaps an honest recognition of this fact might go a long way towards avoiding many of the fallacies being offered by those favoring less restriction rather than more. It isn't an all or nothing proposition. It never has been and it never will.
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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I would venture to say that the majority of people in this country would adamantly defend our right to free speech, freedom of assembly, and right not to have our persons/property searched and seized without due cause,
    And yet, the people of this country have put up with asset forfeiture for several decades now, have said nothing about the Patriot Act, and are silent about indefinite detention without trial.
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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    All too many people from this country also have a hard time with the concept of our rights.
    Unfortunately, that is all too true and scary.

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    Re: Would you like to see the govt confiscate legally obtained/owned "assault" weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I would like to know what would give the government the right to confiscate anyone's weapons as long as they were legal weapons and the person did not break any laws.
    Supposedly when they make gun the owner has illegal and therefore possesion unlawful, and thus the owner in violation of said law. Thats the theory. Of course it does violate ex post facto but nobody seems to care about that these days along with the rest of the constitution.
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