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Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?[W:57]

Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?


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Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

Here is a poll I found on the subject of women in combat......Quite different then our poll here......You can see how we are out of touch with the rest of the country.

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Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

Newsmax is the rest of the country?!?!?!


Its a poll, lighten up my left wing friend. Hell I look at polls from NBC and CNN hardly right wing networks.
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

Its a poll, lighten up my left wing friend.

I was just worried that the rest of the country had changed when I wasn't looking, my communist friend.
 
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I was just worried that the rest of the country had changed when I wasn't looking, my communist friend.

I guess I hit a nerve......sorry about that...........I just calls em as I see em.
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

Here is a poll I found on the subject of women in combat......Quite different then our poll here......You can see how we are out of touch with the rest of the country.

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I find it very interesting that more people supported allowing women to take up combat roles under the condition of meeting the same physical standards as a man, than supported it in general. And overwhelmingly that poll shows support for a single set of standards period, which is reflected here as well.
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

Well if we can't afford a worthwhile cause like saving starving children, we sure as hell shouldn't be invading countries that are not a threat to us, then trying to run their government for them for years. Do you really want to argue that the amount of money we spend on relief touches the military's budget? It's no question what our biggest area of wasteful spending is. Sure, I could have it both ways if this country prioritized differently.

sure...let's just keep feeding starving children around the world so they can grow up to breed even more starving children for us to feed. here's a tip.....if you can't feed your kids....STOP HAVING THEM.

I love how all the bleeding hearts hand wringers, sit back (in the safety that our military provides) and bitch about how much we spend on the military.
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

sure...let's just keep feeding starving children around the world so they can grow up to breed even more starving children for us to feed. here's a tip.....if you can't feed your kids....STOP HAVING THEM.

I love how all the bleeding hearts hand wringers, sit back (in the safety that our military provides) and bitch about how much we spend on the military.

That's because we don't have to spend this much to be safe. The spending people object to has nothing to do with our safety.
 
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That's because we don't have to spend this much to be safe. The spending people object to has nothing to do with our safety.

And neither does pretending that men and women are physically "equal" (as long as you grade on the proper curve). ;)
 
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And neither does pretending that men and women are physically "equal" (as long as you grade on the proper curve). ;)

Where did I say that?
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

Where did I say that?

Just trying to get back to the thread topic. As SHOCKING as that may be to you. ;)
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

And neither does pretending that men and women are physically "equal" (as long as you grade on the proper curve). ;)

No one is arguing that men and women as a whole are physically equal. Just that there are some women out there who indeed are physically equal to the requirements and the task of combat AND who want to serve in that capacity.
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

No one is arguing that men and women as a whole are physically equal. Just that there are some women out there who indeed are physically equal to the requirements and the task of combat AND who want to serve in that capacity.

So you wish to lower all other military service phyisical requirements, except combat "tasks"? Or do you wish to make ONE physical standard low enough to accomodate all non-combat tasks and allow all equal access to those positions? Clearly having different standards based on gender (race or ethnicity) cannot be Constitutional. There is no "good" discrimination, either a requirement exists for a job or it does not.
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

So you wish to lower all other military service phyisical requirements, except combat "tasks"? Or do you wish to make ONE physical standard low enough to accomodate all non-combat tasks and allow all equal access to those positions? Clearly having different standards based on gender (race or ethnicity) cannot be Constitutional. There is no "good" discrimination, either a requirement exists for a job or it does not.

I'll be quite honest in that I do not think that non-combatant MOS's/ratings/whatever necessarily all need the same physical requirements as combatant ones do. Seriously, why does the guy who handles the paychecks need to be able to do the same physical stuff as the guy out on the field. It's the same reasoning that I have for allowing handicaps in the military. A given job is set with certain requirements. If you can meet them, then you qualify for that job. If you can't then you don't qualify then you don't get it. If you can't qualify for any job in the military then you don't get into the military. Really how hard is that?
 
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That's because we don't have to spend this much to be safe. The spending people object to has nothing to do with our safety.

if we would stop trying to feed all the over populated 3rd world ****holes, we'd have plenty of money to "waste" on the military.

so just exactly what military spending (that has nothing to do with our safety) do you object to?
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

if we would stop trying to feed all the over populated 3rd world ****holes, we'd have plenty of money to "waste" on the military.

so just exactly what military spending (that has nothing to do with our safety) do you object to?


Some really big Republican contributors would disagree with you, they like selling their food products around the world - using government subsidies and foreign aid cash.
 
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National Progressive Review: The Feminist Case AGAINST the Equal Rights Amendment

Here's an interesting blog about the ERA, and why it isn't getting passed. This amendment has been on the table for years, and doesn't every seem to get traction. Why the blogger says may shed light on the reason equal rights is not the real goal of the equal rights movement. With the ERA in place, there would be zero consideration for gender.
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

Just trying to get back to the thread topic. As SHOCKING as that may be to you. ;)

The topic is whether women want to be in combat. Nobody is pretending men and women are all equal physically. There are standards for a reason. It's really not a difficult concept to grasp.
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

if we would stop trying to feed all the over populated 3rd world ****holes, we'd have plenty of money to "waste" on the military.

so just exactly what military spending (that has nothing to do with our safety) do you object to?
Why don't you do some research and post some numbers on that... And I object to the billions we wasted in Iraq
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

The topic is whether women want to be in combat. Nobody is pretending men and women are all equal physically. There are standards for a reason. It's really not a difficult concept to grasp.

Really? What is the point of having males that can meet the female standards being denied retention/promotion? Either something is, or is not, a job requirement. I may want to play in the NBA, but that is not the issue.
 
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with rampant unemployment and all the poverty stricken people in the US, we can't afford to feed the starving masses of the world (or cure AIDS in africa) either, but you never see many people advocating to stop spending that $$$$$. They always want to come after the military.

I'd have no problem with reducing our global military footprint...IF we weren't the first ones every other country comes crying to for help whenever there is some natural disaster or crazed warlord killing them.

you can't have it both ways

Right, PEPFAR is bankrupting the United States. No offense to you but I really intensely dislike this trope. I don't know who honed our fixation on small programs whether pork or not but it was a horrible thing to do. Our economic woes are entirely the result of fiscal and monetary policy at a colossal macro level, including everything from entitlements to tax reform. It has nothing to do with PEPFAR, nothing to do with NASA, nothing to do with USAID. Dollar for dollar these programs buy us more good and have greater utility than most in the US government. It is mind numbing to hear the demagoguery about 'foreign aid' when it comprises less than 1% of the budget. These things are easy to rally against cause its money ostensibly 'going over there' or in the case of NASA 'up there' and its why I have an intense dislike for populism.
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

Really? What is the point of having males that can meet the female standards being denied retention/promotion? Either something is, or is not, a job requirement. I may want to play in the NBA, but that is not the issue.

Ill say it again. There should be the same standards for men and women! Whatever is required for the job, everyone needs to be able to do. Now if a woman can meet those standards, you have no reason to whine about it.
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

Ill say it again. There should be the same standards for men and women! Whatever is required for the job, everyone needs to be able to do. Now if a woman can meet those standards, you have no reason to whine about it.

Fine, but we both know that is VERY unlikely to happen since 85% of females would be taken out if the current male standard is adopted.
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

Fine, but we both know that is VERY unlikely to happen since 85% of females would be taken out if the current male standard is adopted.

That's on an assumption that a given job within the military doesn't have standards above the reality of it's needs. For example, to qualify to do accounting work. Why does one even need legs to do so? So let a paraplegic in to do the job, or else just outsource the whole bloodly mess to civilians. Accounting work in a combat zone? The accounting work still has it's same standards, but the combat zone portion has another set of standards that overides. So likely the paraplegic can't meet those standards, but maybe some women can. The jobs themselves would need to have their requirements looked over and adjusted to their real needs.
 
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