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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    moving the goal posts are we? you said "extended periods of time". Sure we stay in the field, but it is typically never for longer than a week or two. like i said, in Iraq, the Infantry units stayed on the FOB/COB and ran missions from there and returned when the mission was done. the longest i ever saw a unit gone during any of my deployments was 4-5 days..and most of those guys weren't living in foxholes, they were simply bunked down at another FOB/COB.

    the days of humping a ruck through the jungle or chasing the NAZIs through the black forrest are long gone.
    And if we had another Vietnam conflict?
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    And if we had another Vietnam conflict?
    sorry, but after seeing them in action, i still have no issues with females serving in combat roles as long as they can meet the same physical standards as the males.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Funny, I've known a lot of people who wanted to serve specifically in combat-- including several who enjoyed the privilege.

    Some women want to serve in the combat arms and specifically in combat. I don't hold with putting women in harm's way, but it does them a terrible disservice to claim they're anything less than genuine in their desire.
    Any guess as to the number one choice of branch for officers coming out of OCS?

    Infantry - the vast majority of brand new Army 2LTs want to be infantry officers. so much so that only the best and brightest, top of their class, get to be infantry. everyone else usually gets stuck with their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sorry, but after seeing them in action, i still have no issues with females serving in combat roles as long as they can meet the same physical standards as the males.
    That is just it my friend (and I thank you for your service) only a few women ccan meet the male standards.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is just it my friend (and I thank you for your service) only a few women ccan meet the male standards.
    So then what is your beef if they can meet the standards and are willing to serve in combat? It's not like the goal is to put all women in combat situations.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    So then what is your beef if they can meet the standards and are willing to serve in combat? It's not like the goal is to put all women in combat situations.
    My beef is men don't get a choice......They have to meet the physical standards in boot cam.....Women have a much easier physical standard to meet.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    You are being unrealistic unless you are advocating going from all volunteer military to a forced all persons serve at least 2 years military. At best women make up, what, 25%-30% of the military? If someone has a number of this I would appreciate it. All I came up with on the fly was they fill 91% of the types of jobs or other such figures. Nothing straight out. So at best you can realistically call for that same percentage on the battlefield.

    What I want to see is standards on what it takes to be on the battlefield and only those who can meet or exceed those standards get to go. If you can't meet them, man or woman, you're not on the battlefield. Period. No lower standards for anyone. Period.
    No, I can call for whatever I want. Weather I get it or not is another thing. However, I believe it will always be mostly men because, as I have mentioned before, women don't want equality, they want entitlement. 50% of the frosting without having to sacrifice for it like many men do who are called up to go overseas and die. When women pull their weight and become 50% of that, then I will take them seriously when they say they want equality. So far, all I can see is them saying they want 50% of the candy but 5% of the bullets, RPG's, Mortars and IED injuries and deaths. You can't ask for 50% of all that is good without people asking you to do 50% of the work to earn it.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    As a marine, ...
    "Marine" is capitalized because it is specialized and is a proper noun. Even the NY Times knows this. ------> When Every Letter Counts - NYTimes.com "Army" is also capitalized, however, "soldier" is not because it is generic and it is not a proper noun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    ...I would think you would understand exactly what I am saying. You know that convoy duty and supply duty do not come in contact with the enemy as much as someone searching out the enemy. Which is why women are a VERY small number of deaths on the battlefield.
    True. But dead just the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    You know that the majority of women that do join the Military flock to the Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard, not the Army or Marines.
    True. Women do not generally look for that kind of military experience that men do. But most of the other branches are men as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    What I want to see is 50% of those on the front lines being women, or at least close to that number.
    Never going to happen. Unless near 100,000 women can pass the physical fitness tests that men have to take, there will not be a Marine infantry with 50% women and there's no point in the discussion. You may as well demand that half the NFL players be women. It would change the game dramatically, wouldn't it? How many women do you think you are going to find that would line up and get their asses kicked up and down a field? What owner would guarantee his team zero wins? Muscle, aggression, and power mean everything to an NFL Team. Do you really expect the Marines to want less from their infantry? When on the hike, pick up vehicles are full of women that have fallen out because they cannot handle the weight of a pack at a fast pace for 5, 10, 15, 26 miles. Men fall out too. It is tough. But the percentage of women is staggering. They simply can't do it.

    The military is not a game. It is not a civilian work place where fairness must prevail in all areas. You want fairness, run for office. Even the undiagnosed mentally impaired person can work in Washington. Just turn on CSPAN or do a roll call of Democrats and Republicans. The Marines turn away fat, weakness, and the stupid (despite the stereotype that more fits the Army's standards). Those that are taken get beaten into shape until they prove that they are determined to fail and then they get kicked out the gate. Do you actually think the Marine Corps (or the Army) is going to staff its infantry with 50% women just for the sake of fairness?

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Joan of Arc was captured by being betrayed.
    It was the English who wanted her executed - and the actual charge against her was not witchcraft, but the crime of dressing like a man. For that they burned her at the stake.
    Was it Moses of the Arc? That bastard. All he cared about was his animals. Unless he brought two wives on board as well and could spare one. Hmmmmm.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is just it my friend (and I thank you for your service) only a few women ccan meet the male standards.
    so what's the problem with letting those few serve? Just as not every male can meet the standards to be a ranger, not all females can meet the standards to be a combat trooper
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