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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    It is inclusive of all people in uniform. Most of the individuals who die in combat related incidences are men, but women are among them today. When politicians send other people's kids and other kids fathers to war, they are condemning many of them to death; something most of them vaguely understand. In today's warfare, this means every woman on a supply convoy and any woman on a helo crew, not just the infantry in the "front lines" where combat is imminent. When a rocket lands inside a base and kills people, women can and have been among them. Since most of the dead are men are we to pretend that women are absent so to keep massaging that fragile and frail male ego?

    We are numbers on a spreadsheet. Nothing more. Percentage doesn't matter unless we wish to pound our manly chests and scoff at women for existing. Ever since "Eve ate the apple" the male ego in all cultures have designed ways to raise himself above women. Today, they can't even be counted amongst the men in combat related deaths because it somehow insults the men.
    As a marine, I would think you would understand exactly what I am saying. You know that convoy duty and supply duty do not come in contact with the enemy as much as someone searching out the enemy. Which is why women are a VERY small number of deaths on the battlefield.

    You know that the majority of women that do join the Military flock to the Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard, not the Army or Marines.

    What I want to see is 50% of those on the front lines being women, or at least close to that number.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sorry again brother, but i have been in several IED strikes and a couple of fire fights with female MPs and they held up just as well as the guys.
    Like a Police Officer I have no problem with women as MPs....What I am talking about is living in the field in a foxhole for extended periods of time. Hygiene being the least of the problems.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Joan of Arc was captured by being betrayed.
    It was the English who wanted her executed - and the actual charge against her was not witchcraft, but the crime of dressing like a man. For that they burned her at the stake.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Joan of Arc was captured by being betrayed.
    It was the English who wanted her executed - and the actual charge against her was not witchcraft, but the crime of dressing like a man. For that they burned her at the stake.
    And your point is?
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Your arguments are as reality based?
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    As a marine, I would think you would understand exactly what I am saying. You know that convoy duty and supply duty do not come in contact with the enemy as much as someone searching out the enemy. Which is why women are a VERY small number of deaths on the battlefield.

    You know that the majority of women that do join the Military flock to the Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard, not the Army or Marines.

    What I want to see is 50% of those on the front lines being women, or at least close to that number.
    You are being unrealistic unless you are advocating going from all volunteer military to a forced all persons serve at least 2 years military. At best women make up, what, 25%-30% of the military? If someone has a number of this I would appreciate it. All I came up with on the fly was they fill 91% of the types of jobs or other such figures. Nothing straight out. So at best you can realistically call for that same percentage on the battlefield.

    What I want to see is standards on what it takes to be on the battlefield and only those who can meet or exceed those standards get to go. If you can't meet them, man or woman, you're not on the battlefield. Period. No lower standards for anyone. Period.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    You are being unrealistic unless you are advocating going from all volunteer military to a forced all persons serve at least 2 years military. At best women make up, what, 25%-30% of the military? If someone has a number of this I would appreciate it. All I came up with on the fly was they fill 91% of the types of jobs or other such figures. Nothing straight out. So at best you can realistically call for that same percentage on the battlefield.

    What I want to see is standards on what it takes to be on the battlefield and only those who can meet or exceed those standards get to go. If you can't meet them, man or woman, you're not on the battlefield. Period. No lower standards for anyone. Period.
    I've seen different numbers, never as high as 30% sometimes 20%. Statistic brain puts it at 14.6% (for women in active duty) and say they get their numbers from the Department of defense and veterans affairs but I'm not familiar with them so I don't know and that was as of April 2012.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Like a Police Officer I have no problem with women as MPs....What I am talking about is living in the field in a foxhole for extended periods of time. Hygiene being the least of the problems.
    in today's army (don't know about the marines) even the infantry pukes don't spend extended periods living in foxholes. they operate out of FOBs/COBs that have basic life support facilities.

    your objections may have been valid 15-20 years ago...but wars are fought in a totally different manner these days.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    in today's army (don't know about the marines) even the infantry pukes don't spend extended periods living in foxholes. they operate out of FOBs/COBs that have basic life support facilities.

    your objections may have been valid 15-20 years ago...but wars are fought in a totally different manner these days.

    So your saying in todays army troops don't stay in the field any longer?
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    So your saying in todays army troops don't stay in the field any longer?
    moving the goal posts are we? you said "extended periods of time". Sure we stay in the field, but it is typically never for longer than a week or two. like i said, in Iraq, the Infantry units stayed on the FOB/COB and ran missions from there and returned when the mission was done. the longest i ever saw a unit gone during any of my deployments was 4-5 days..and most of those guys weren't living in foxholes, they were simply bunked down at another FOB/COB.

    the days of humping a ruck through the jungle or chasing the NAZIs through the black forrest are long gone.
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