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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    Pum pum pum.....yes, just one man. He's all right though for a man, he has a brain and great big...bank balance.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    This thread is wearing me out and it's gone off topic. I'm away.
    Of course you are; it makes perfect sense for you to bolt from a beat-down. Transparently perfect sense.

    Though not without getting in one more doozy of a sexist shot:

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    Pum pum pum.....yes, just one man. He's all right though for a man, he has a brain and great big...bank balance.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    We carry what is necessary. When I went from infantry to special ops, my pack got bigger and heavier.

    When OIF started, my unit was responsible for taking the western desert. We had to pack enough food, water, ammunition, to get through to the next supply drop. We had the best gear available to the military and did not carry luxury items.

    We were fortunate enough to have vehicles so humping these packs was not necessary but we always trained for it as a contingency plan.

    Training marches were a 75 pound ruck ( and water was extra on top of this weight) we had a little supply guy who weighed about 130. Despite maxing his pt test these marches were an epic struggle for him. He would constantly fall down because the weight was too much for him.

    Different units have different missions and physical demands.

    Most of the guys in my unit looked like big country boys but we were suitably built for our mission.

    My brother-in laws unit down the road LRRSD, they were younger, and generally smaller than we were and they were suitably built for their task.
    I have trekked through Peru and seen some very small men there carrying multiple rucksacks other bigger men couldn't possibly manage. Sherpas the same. I often throw big bags about in the course of my own work and am involved in other physical duties, which men regularly cry off due to bad shoulders, bad backs, bla bla bla. It's not prohibitive. In a lot of cases technique is helpful. In the case of carrying injured from the field of battle, technique might come into play.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Of course you are; it makes perfect sense for you to bolt from a beat-down. Transparently perfect sense.

    Though not without getting in one more doozy of a sexist shot:
    Beat down...righto. What are you on about now? If you want me to beat you down, hurry up. I have other things to do here.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    Beat down...righto. What are you on about now? If you want me to beat you down, hurry up. I have other things to do here.
    It helps, if you're going to declare yourself above a thread and leave righteously, that you actually leave it.

    Else, you end up with even less credibility than you had before you said it.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    I wouldn't remove anything. I would bring in the techies and reduce the weight of everything in the pack.
    While it's a good thing to be constantly trying to make things more efficient and effective for our military, we shouldn't focus on this just so that women can carry the packs. The focus shouldn't be on "gender equality" (as you think it should), but with national security and the safety of our soldiers.


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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    This is almost all true and the reality is that although they are becoming physically bigger by generation and in the future they may be physically better equipped, at this juncture women are on the whole not physically able to fulfill that criteria. However, if all that is required to remove that obstacle is lighter kit, wtf are you on about? That is far from insurmountable. NASA is able to lighten and downsize all manner of materials to enable craft to go into space. Technology probably already exists to lighten military tools.
    I'm sure they have made the kits as light as they possibly can for the time being. Don't you think they would want to improve things for the people who are already in the military? They are always trying to make advances in equipment, such as body armor which they have made MAJOR improvements in.

    Perhaps in the future, you will be correct and they will find a way to make things easier and women WILL be able to play a larger role, but as it stands right now it is what it is, and the women who can pass the physical fitness tests are more than welcome, I'm sure.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm sure they have made the kits as light as they possibly can for the time being. Don't you think they would want to improve things for the people who are already in the military? They are always trying to make advances in equipment, such as body armor which they have made MAJOR improvements in.

    Perhaps in the future, you will be correct and they will find a way to make things easier and women WILL be able to play a larger role, but as it stands right now it is what it is, and the women who can pass the physical fitness tests are more than welcome, I'm sure.
    It's not as easy to dismiss if your law supports equal opportunities, a discrimination case could be made against the employer and the issue could be forced. That is probably the only way it will be done as is often the case with womens' rights and any other rights, they have to be taken, they are rarely given.
    Last edited by Viv; 01-27-13 at 12:18 PM.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    It's not as easy to dismiss if your law supports equal opportunities, a discrimination case could be made against the employer and the issue could be forced. That is probably the only way it will be done as if often the case with womens' rights and any other rights, they have to be taken, they are rarely given.
    It is an equal opportunity. The testing is the SAME for males and females. That is equal. It's the same results if men can't pass the physical fitness test.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    It's not as easy to dismiss if your law supports equal opportunities, a discrimination case could be made against the employer and the issue could be forced. That is probably the only way it will be done as if often the case with womens' rights and any other rights, they have to be taken, they are rarely given.
    If a person cannot handle the job description, an employer isn't obligated to dumb it down just so you can work there. You either can do it or you can't. I believe there are women that can handle the current standards for combat in the military right now. There's no need to change anything just because some women can't do it.


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