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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    I don't believe the women who are interested in participating, would appreciate that insult to their ability. I don't believe they would go into battle to endanger national security, it directly conflicts with the whole point of military service.
    I'm not insulting any female soldier's ability. I'm insulting your thought that we should "dumb down" things so all women can participate.


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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Rather obvious that nobody posting in this thread reads the NYTimes.


    Does the following story answer your question?





    What do you think? Are there women already showing they can do what is needed for a combat infantry position?
    It's obvious somebody isn't keeping up with my posts. I already said that if a woman CAN pass the physical tests, as the men have to, then I see no reason why she can't serve. However, I don't think she should be allowed any kind of handicaps. Is that unreasonable?

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I'm not insulting any female soldier's ability. I'm insulting your thought that we should "dumb down" things so all women can participate.
    Why don't you quote me. I just don't recall thinking that.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's obvious somebody isn't keeping up with my posts. I already said that if a woman CAN pass the physical tests, as the men have to, then I see no reason why she can't serve. However, I don't think she should be allowed any kind of handicaps. Is that unreasonable?
    A kit she can't possibly carry is a bit of a handicap, pet.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    It is weighted to suit male soldiers.



    ...you are absolutely insisting that women soldiers are given exactly that. A handicap. Women are to be handicapped out of combat and for some of the people posting it seems to all focus on something as simple as more appropriate kit.



    It appears you are wrong, as women may soon take part in combat.

    I don't believe the women who are interested in participating, would appreciate that insult to their ability. I don't believe they would go into battle to endanger national security, it directly conflicts with the whole point of military service.
    Nope, in order for a woman to be TRULY equal, she should be able to pass the physical fitness tests, as the men have to. If she can't do it, then she is physically incapable.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    A kit she can't possibly carry is a bit of a handicap, pet.
    Then she isn't qualified.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    Why don't you quote me. I just don't recall thinking that.
    Okay....

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    Do you seriously think it is beyond the might of the military to produce a kit more suitable for female soldiers, when there are people producing invisible tanks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    You're entitled to your opinion. If women want to get involved in combat, it is (or should be) their right. I don't know how US law stands, but a case can surely be made for discrimination against an employer who makes equality of opportunity in the workplace impossible and takes no steps to reduce that inequality.

    They will be forced to reduce the weight if women want to join that arena.
    You want the US military to change things so that all women who want to can participate in combat. That's "dumbing down" the standards. Why can't the standards stay where they are?


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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    A kit she can't possibly carry is a bit of a handicap, pet.
    If you cannot keep up with the boys, then you can't be part of team. And, no, that's not being sexist. This is our national security we're talking about here.


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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Assassins? lol We're talking grunts here dude. Not some kind of Syphon Filter Metal Gear Solid crap.
    Trouble is here..it is full of testorone b*ll crap...

    They really have no idea..

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Another issue I wanted to bring up with this situation. Once again, as with the repeal of DADT, the SecDef did not wait on the results of a survey that every service put out regarding women in combat MOS's. The results are usually published via mass email to every Marine with a .mil email address. I have yet to see them. If the SecDef and Joint Chiefs are going to make the decision anyway, then just friggin make it. Don't patronize us. Don't act like our opinion matters, because it obviously doesn't. I'm all about following orders. I'm ok with a senior officer just telling me "Women are serving combat and that's all there is to it." Fine. But what they do everytime one of these issues comes up is put out these surveys because they "care" what we think. Bogus. 58% of combat MOS Marines stated that they were against the repeal of DADT. I didn't agree withe DADT but apparently a lot of the guys around me did. And senior officers wonder why Marines don't participate in these surveys lol. Why should we? It's a waste of time. It's the equivalent of my commanding officer saying "Hey, do you think we should execute this operation?" when he has already made the decision. The military isn't a democracy. Stop treating it like one. If a douche bag civilian (Panetta) wants to make a stupid decision with the support of politicians in uniform (Joint Chiefs) then so be it. But don't ask me what I think about it when you already made the call.
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