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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Upper body strength and endurance matter. We had plenty of crew served weapons, and anti-tank missiles, that could be mounted on the ground or on trucks (and was moved back and forth, according to mobility needs). We moved around a lot. There was always lots of ammo to go here or there. Hell, just digging the fox holes (and truck holes) required tremendous strength.
    I agree with that..but I think it is just another sexist commentary...to keep women in their place...orchestrated by men..

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    I agree with that..but I think it is just another sexist commentary...to keep women in their place...orchestrated by men..
    I didn't read the commentary. I feel, as ex airborne infantry (enlisted), that upper body strength cannot be compromised. All of us would run out of gas sometimes, preferrably at different times, and if anyone was significantly less strong they would be a burden and security risk.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yup. Lots of grunt work is strenuous and requires considerable upper-body strength and endurance. I'm not ashamed to admit that at 47 I couldn't keep up with a bunch of 11Bravo soldiers in their 20s, they'd run me into the ground no doubt... and I'm not even going to talk about Rangers or Marine Recon. I might have qual'd Ranger in my 20s given the chance, but not any more.

    Certain combat units require far-above-average physical ability, and not everyone can qual. If some women can, more power to 'em IMO... but the standards need to be kept exactly as they are and not lowered for any reason. They are what they are for very good reasons: it takes a lot of physicality to do some of these jobs.
    But the real test would be doing the job.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Side note:

    Birth control pills (or other means) that negate menstruation might be mandatory - bleeding greatly weakens a person and that would not be a variable that an infantry platoon needs. We don't have the extra food and we don't have the extra manpower to support one of ours in a weakened state as a routine matter of operations.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    But the real test would be doing the job.

    Apparently..Israel has no problems engaging women soldiers..

    8 Other Nations that Send Women to Combat

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Side note:

    Birth control pills (or other means) that negate menstration might be mandatory - bleeding greatly weakens a person and that would not be a variable that an infantry platoon needs. We don't have the extra food and we don't have the extra manpower to support one of ours in a weakened state as a routine matter of operations.
    PMS should be mandatory in a hostile AO..

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    Apparently..Israel has no problems engaging women soldiers..

    8 Other Nations that Send Women to Combat
    In the case of Israel, it's a matter of necessity. Israel is not a nation of 300m people. Without women, and mandatory service, it would not be able to meet its security needs. This, of course, does not imply that such is optimal.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    women want to risk their lives in combat no less than any misogynistic man does.

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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    In the case of Israel, it's a matter of necessity. Israel is not a nation of 300m people. Without women, and mandatory service, it would not be able to meet its security needs. This, of course, does not imply that such is optimal.
    This goes back to what I said about supply and demand influencing where to set standards.
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    Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    In the case of Israel, it's a matter of necessity. Israel is not a nation of 300m people. Without women, and mandatory service, it would not be able to meet its security needs. This, of course, does not imply that such is optimal.
    And quite well. But the point is, they manage to do the job, just as women would if men somehow couldn't. It is important to question assumptions.

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