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Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?[W:57]

Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

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Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

ReformCollege said:
I was more or less building off what you said, on how people can be closed minded when it comes to reaching a goal. But I usually assume the best of the best at something didn't get that way by being creatures of habit.
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Well, repetition can be a good think, but not reevaluating isn't. I believe the best of the best question their assumptions regularly.
 
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Boo Radley said:
The military, with proper input form the various effected parties. A complete rethinking, focused on what standards matter.
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Do these "effected parties" include or dis-include parties that have absolutely no background in military policy IE, feminist groups?
 
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Boo Radley said:
Well, repetition can be a good think, but not reevaluating isn't. I believe the best of the best question their assumptions regularly.
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You keep giving us this Confucius crap. You want the military to invest billions of dollars in lighter gear so that a handfull of people can get in on the action, and we don't even get to use it? That's BS. There are chicks who can make the standards. I dare say that any chick really committed can do it, she just better get ready before basic.
 
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ecofarm said:
You keep giving us this Confucius crap. You want the military to invest billions of dollars in lighter gear so that a handfull of people can get in on the action, and we don't even get to use it? That's BS. There are chicks who can make the standards. I dare say that any chick really committed can do it, she just better get ready before basic.
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Not sure I have any Confucius crap, but every organization rethinks everything they regularly. And while I've made no recommendations on what might change, most of what you list will change in one way or another regardless of whether women are there or not.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Not sure I have any Confucius crap, but every organization rethinks everything they regularly. And while I've made no recommendations on what might change, most of what you list will change in one way or another regardless of whether women are there or not.
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Is there any substance, at all, to your "opinion" (which I would more classify as a meditation aid).
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

ttwtt78640 said:
Care to share a source for your assertion of what is going on? That may be your wish, but I have seen nothing of the sort actually proposed.

Odierno backs expanding role of women in combat - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/02/08/20120208defense-military-expand-roles-women.html
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You have lost me. I, myself, me, have said that he military should reevaluate. I have not argued anything about what is going on.
 
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ecofarm said:
Is there any substance, at all, to your "opinion" (which I would more classify as a meditation aid).
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Not sure what you're looking for. I have given an on the job example here of re-seeing leading to improvement.
 
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Boo Radley said:
You have lost me. I, myself, me, have said that he military should reevaluate. I have not argued anything about what is going on.
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That's not a position. Where'd you leave it.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Not sure what you're looking for. I have given an on the job example here of re-seeing leading to improvement.
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Yeeesss... Booooo
We will be one with reassessment
We will walk in the light of evaluation
We will stride with critical thought
We will reconsider, again and again, in a never ending cycle of truth and justice
We will never surrender!


There, are you happy now?
 
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ecofarm said:
That's not a position. Where'd you leave it.
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It is a position. Someone said these standards had been there for a long, long time. To this I replied that the standards may not apply. So it is time to re-see it.
 
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ecofarm said:
Yeeesss... Booooo
We will be one with reassessment
We will walk in the light of evaluation
We will stride with critical thought
We will reconsider, again and again, in a never ending cycle of truth and justice
We will never surrender!
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There, are you happy now?
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That's quite emotional.
 
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Boo Radley said:
You have lost me. I, myself, me, have said that he military should reevaluate. I have not argued anything about what is going on.
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Reevaluate WHAT? 1) The use of separate but unequal physical standards or 2) whether those meeting the lower standard should perform more tasks where lives, of themselves and others, are more at risk?
 
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Boo Radley said:
That's quite emotional.
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Quick question: would you surrender with a chick in your unit?
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Reevaluate WHAT? 1) The use of separate but unequal physical standards or 2) whether those meeting the lower standard should perform more tasks where lives, of themselves and others, are more at risk?
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Evaluate the standards themselves. Do they measure what is really needed.
 
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ecofarm said:
Quick question: would you surrender with a chick in your unit?
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Whether I surrender or not would having nothing to do with the gender make up. I would expect of myself or anyone else to be professional.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Whether I surrender or not would having nothing to do with the gender make up. I would expect of myself or anyone else to be professional.
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You personally better not, it's against our creed. But the issue remains.
 
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ecofarm said:
You personally better not, it's against our creed. But the issue remains.
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What issue? Are you saying professionals will stop being professionals?
 
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Boo Radley said:
What issue? Are you saying professionals will stop being professionals?
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Well, I'm not sure what other professionals (given the out of surrender) might think about it.
 
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ecofarm said:
Well, I'm not sure what other professionals (given the out of surrender) might think about it.
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A professional acts like a professional. I think that is the essence of professionalism.
 
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Boo Radley said:
A professional acts like a professional. I think that is the essence of rifessionalism.
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Ok, when you're done being Confucius, we'll debate something.

Good day.
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

Boo Radley said:
Well, repetition can be a good think, but not reevaluating isn't. I believe the best of the best question their assumptions regularly.
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Of course, so why do so many insist on questioning them?
 
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ecofarm said:
Ok, when you're done being Confucius, we'll debate something.

Good day.
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Have you ever read Confucius? I'm answering by noting that this shod not be an issue for professionals. And soldiers are professionals.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Evaluate the standards themselves. Do they measure what is really needed.
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If they were the ones doing that, there would hardly be any women in the army at all. What you see now is the result of other people evaluating those standards for them.
 
Re: Do you really think women in the Military want to risk their lives in combat?

ReformCollege said:
Of course, so why do so many insist on questioning them?
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Because it is not the only thing. Repetition helps, especially in learning rote habits, but is not good for evaluating. If you are repetitions the least effect thing, that's a bad strategy.
 
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