View Poll Results: Which of these leaders are worth their salaries/bonuses?

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  • Tim Cook, Apple Inc. -- $900,000

    6 35.29%
  • Eric Schmidt, Google Inc. -- $937,000

    8 47.06%
  • David Zaslav, Discovery Communications Inc. -- $2.9 million

    5 29.41%
  • Ralph Lauren, Ralph Lauren Corp. -- $1.25 million

    6 35.29%
  • Alan Mulally, Ford Motor Co. -- $2 million, $1.8 million bonus

    6 35.29%
  • R.W. Tillerson, Exxon Mobile -- $2.3 million, $4.3 million bonus

    6 35.29%
  • Leslie Moonves, CBS Corp. -- $3.5 million, $27.5 million bonus

    5 29.41%
  • Robert Iger, Disney Co. -- $2 million

    6 35.29%
  • David Cote, Honeywell Intl Inc. -- $1.8 million, $4.3 million bonus

    5 29.41%
  • No person is worth more than $_______ (specify amount)

    7 41.18%
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Thread: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    Having worked in the F-500 for most of my life I can tell you that the CEO is the most worthless and easily replaced person in the company. The premise is that they make all the big decisions but the reality is when ever a big decision is to be made an external consulting company is almost always hired. I can hire a bum that lives under the bridge and pay him minimum wage to operate a telephone that calls someone else to make the big decisions. Furthermore when they do make the big decision and it fails they are given millions to go away. They are a complete waste of money.

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    That's true, including the value of their stocks/options/etc. dramatically increases those figures further, but it's not as if the question is unanswerable in its current form. Are they even worth those base salary/bonus figures?
    I think a ratio of 100:1 from highest to lowest paid is pretty steep already - but it's much worse than that. For example:

    Apple has awarded new CEO Tim Cook 1 million shares of stock.

    At today's prices, those shares would be worth $383 million.
    Read more: Apple Awards Tim Cook 1 Million Shares - Business Insider

    That's waaaay beyond a 100:1 ratio and makes his "salary" a spit in the bucket.
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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    They are all worth what the market dictates they should have. Performance driven people deserve all they can get. People that want to punch a clock and then whine about what they should get need to STFU.

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Which of these business leaders are (or were) worth what they earn(ed) annually?

    Explain.
    It is only any of my business if I own stock in those companies.
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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    Interesting responses so far. I kind of agree with almost all of you (even those whose posts differ markedly from one another).

    On one hand, I would not advise the federal government step in and fix this, and I believe companies operating legally and doing what their customers demand and what it takes to survive should be left alone to self-govern or self-destruct.

    On the other I question whether it ultimately works for the company or anyone else long-term to have fully adopted this equity-based pay model that aligns their interests with the stockholders. There are obvious upsides to this, but it's probably not without downsides. For example, the alignment might be to the detriment of the product/service, the reputation of the company, the long-term going concern (rather than short-term growth/profitability), and other things.

    http://law.harvard.edu/faculty/jfrie...%20Results.pdf

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    None of them listed are worth that much


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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    They don't hold up the company, thus they shouldn't be payed such a ridiculous amount.

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    None of them listed are worth that much
    How much then?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    They don't hold up the company, thus they shouldn't be payed such a ridiculous amount.
    No CEO single-handedly "holds up" the company. What do you define as ridiculous vs. not ridiculous when it comes to heading some of the world's largest companies?

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    CEO's are paid just like sports players.

    A business sees their worth, and will pay them just a little more than what another company would. See...this is what happens when you're not a union Borg. If you don't like what you're paid, you have the freedom to go peddle your wares somewhere else.

    If SuperWidgets LLC doesn't want to pay Joe Blow $400,000 but BetterWidgets LLC is willing to pay that, then Joe Blow gets to go work for BetterWidgets. If SuperWidgets doesn't like it, then they need to pay Joe Blow an amount that would make him stay. See...they don't just want any CEO. They specifically want Joe Blow. That makes him a commodity. That makes his value rise.

    See...you bottom feeders can't comprehend that, because you'll likely never be in a situation where your personal worth is valued that high. So go be jealous elsewhere, or find a way to make yourself more profitable without knocking others down. It makes you look weak in character.

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    LOL, we're docking your pay, but the good news is, you're getting this "Achievement medal" we bought at hobby lobby.
    Well it is maybe not as crazy as it sounds. Take for exampel what would you choose from this example? Either earning 400 000 dollar a year and have a rewarding job and me admired by people both outside and inside the company. Or earning 2 million a year having a really terrible job and be despised by people both inside and outside the company. That it can of course can take some creativity to come up with alternative priviligies then money and of course they should still be a diffrent between low and high income. But then you come up to fantasy sums its more about the influence and status when happines from the things you can buy for the money.

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