View Poll Results: Which of these leaders are worth their salaries/bonuses?

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  • Tim Cook, Apple Inc. -- $900,000

    6 35.29%
  • Eric Schmidt, Google Inc. -- $937,000

    8 47.06%
  • David Zaslav, Discovery Communications Inc. -- $2.9 million

    5 29.41%
  • Ralph Lauren, Ralph Lauren Corp. -- $1.25 million

    6 35.29%
  • Alan Mulally, Ford Motor Co. -- $2 million, $1.8 million bonus

    6 35.29%
  • R.W. Tillerson, Exxon Mobile -- $2.3 million, $4.3 million bonus

    6 35.29%
  • Leslie Moonves, CBS Corp. -- $3.5 million, $27.5 million bonus

    5 29.41%
  • Robert Iger, Disney Co. -- $2 million

    6 35.29%
  • David Cote, Honeywell Intl Inc. -- $1.8 million, $4.3 million bonus

    5 29.41%
  • No person is worth more than $_______ (specify amount)

    7 41.18%
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Thread: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    No person is worth a single penny.

    All people are nothing but worthless property of the state.

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Which of these business leaders are (or were) worth what they earn(ed) annually?

    Explain.
    They pretty much all are. As it's been pointed out, this is only a fraction of their pay, but just for argument's sake let's take this at face value.

    Google is a 50 billion dollar company, a million a year is nothing. For the radicals out there, let's say we take that million and split it among the 30,000 employees: That's $33 per employee. I'm sure most of them would pay that in order to have a competent CEO making sure they keep their jobs.

    Same deal with the highest paid on this list, Leslie Moonves. If you split her 31 million over 21,000 employees, that's only $1,476 per employee, which considering most at CBS are pretty well paid, that's basically nothing.

    Stock options are also another great thing. These people have incentives to make profit for their companies, because it effects their own money too.
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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Seriously, why does it matter what a CEO is paid?
    Small groups of powerful people are using their social and political power to continually vote themselves raises, leading to a culture of rampant pay inflation that violates the basic tenant of capitalism: reward success and punish incompetence.

    You know how conservatives complain about teachers that are incompetent, overpaid and impossible to fire? Its like that, only instead of the students and taxpayers, they're ****ing over shareholders, customers, the people that work for them, and the economy in which they teeter.

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkySalsa View Post
    Small groups of powerful people are using their social and political power to continually vote themselves raises, leading to a culture of rampant pay inflation that violates the basic tenant of capitalism: reward success and punish incompetence.

    You know how conservatives complain about teachers that are incompetent, overpaid and impossible to fire? Its like that, only instead of the students and taxpayers, they're ****ing over shareholders, customers, the people that work for them, and the economy in which they teeter.
    The problem is maybee lack of medals. That does a person really becomes more happy if he earns 1 or 2 million instead of 0,5 million for material reason? Maybee it is instead mostly about status, power, and a sense of accomplishment that makes people wanting to earn that much. So the trick is maybe is finding medals and other ways to make Ceo to feel important that is less costly then throwing money at them.

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bergslagstroll View Post
    The problem is maybee lack of medals. That does a person really becomes more happy if he earns 1 or 2 million instead of 0,5 million for material reason? Maybee it is instead mostly about status, power, and a sense of accomplishment that makes people wanting to earn that much. So the trick is maybe is finding medals and other ways to make Ceo to feel important that is less costly then throwing money at them.
    LOL, we're docking your pay, but the good news is, you're getting this "Achievement medal" we bought at hobby lobby.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    LOL, we're docking your pay, but the good news is, you're getting this "Achievement medal" we bought at hobby lobby.
    We need to give them a certificate they can hang on their refrigerator. Let them know how good they are doing, and how proud we are of them.
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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    The CEOs of most companies are not really the problem yet have suffered too much of the focus.

    If you want to hone in on the parasites of this economy who are doing the most damage you need to examine the money trail of the country's richest families and their political influence. For that you would need to deal with the banks who are complicit.

    A CEO who makes a paltry few million dollars a year pales in comparison to the slim percentage who own most of the country's financial stock or capital assets.

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    All of them are worth that much, because that's what the market has set their price at. Their skill, expertise, and knowledge within that job is evidently viewed as beneficial enough to their company AND potential competitors that the company is willing to allocate such a large amount of money towards them because that's similar to what other companies would offer.

    There is no inante, universal, utterly objective, natural law that dictates how much money a particular style of work or type of position is actually "worth" or "deserves"...those things are dictated by the supply and demand surrounding the various jobs.

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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkySalsa View Post
    Small groups of powerful people are using their social and political power to continually vote themselves raises, leading to a culture of rampant pay inflation that violates the basic tenant of capitalism: reward success and punish incompetence.

    You know how conservatives complain about teachers that are incompetent, overpaid and impossible to fire? Its like that, only instead of the students and taxpayers, they're ****ing over shareholders, customers, the people that work for them, and the economy in which they teeter.
    If you don't like the CEO of a company, or how much a CEO makes, don't purchase that company's goods or services. If enough people feel the way you do, the behavior will likely change, or it could impact that company's ability to compete in its industry. If you work for a company like that, go work somewhere else. If you're a shareholder, sell your shares and buy stock in another company.
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    Re: Which of these CEOs are (or were) worth their pay?

    All of them, if that is what the owners/shareholders choose to pay them.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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