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    Physical Fitness Standards in the Military

    Should females be required to meet the same physical fitness standards as males? The difference in standards is astounding, no matter what service's standards you look at. This is especially true of the Marine Corps and Army standards though. Below are links to all 4 branches of the military's physical fitness standards.

    Marine Physical Fitness | Marine Initial Strength Test | Marines.com
    APFT : Army Physical Fitness Test | Army.com
    Air Force BMT Physical Fitness Test - Military Fitness - Military.com
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    Re: Physical Fitness Standards in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Should females be required to meet the same physical fitness standards as males? The difference in standards is astounding, no matter what service's standards you look at. This is especially true of the Marine Corps and Army standards though. Below are links to all 4 branches of the military's physical fitness standards.

    Marine Physical Fitness | Marine Initial Strength Test | Marines.com
    APFT : Army Physical Fitness Test | Army.com
    Air Force BMT Physical Fitness Test - Military Fitness - Military.com
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    When it comes to the military? I think they should be held to the same standards. If I were a soldier clearing a house with another soldier, I wouldn't want the soldier who's supposed to have my back to be a 125# gal who didn't have to pass the same physical requirements I did. Just makes sense to me.

    When it comes to cops? I think that might be a different story. (Not sure if it is...) I think that way because I think women bring something else to the table in a street confrontation. But in wartime? I want The Terminator on my side.
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    Re: Physical Fitness Standards in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    When it comes to the military? I think they should be held to the same standards. If I were a soldier clearing a house with another soldier, I wouldn't want the soldier who's supposed to have my back to be a 125# gal who didn't have to pass the same physical requirements I did. Just makes sense to me.

    When it comes to cops? I think that might be a different story. (Not sure if it is...) I think that way because I think women bring something else to the table in a street confrontation. But in wartime? I want The Terminator on my side.
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    Re: Physical Fitness Standards in the Military

    If the standards are important to the task the member would be performing, then the standards should be the same for all involved
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    Re: Physical Fitness Standards in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    When it comes to the military? I think they should be held to the same standards. If I were a soldier clearing a house with another soldier, I wouldn't want the soldier who's supposed to have my back to be a 125# gal who didn't have to pass the same physical requirements I did. Just makes sense to me.

    When it comes to cops? I think that might be a different story. (Not sure if it is...) I think that way because I think women bring something else to the table in a street confrontation. But in wartime? I want The Terminator on my side.
    It isn't so much clearing buildings as it is such things as retrieving a wounded soldier or lugging a couple of ammo cans to a fixed fighting position while under fire.

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    Re: Physical Fitness Standards in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    If the standards are important to the task the member would be performing, then the standards should be the same for all involved
    Explain further please. I think I know where you're going with this but I want to make sure.
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    Re: Physical Fitness Standards in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Should females be required to meet the same physical fitness standards as males? The difference in standards is astounding, no matter what service's standards you look at. This is especially true of the Marine Corps and Army standards though. Below are links to all 4 branches of the military's physical fitness standards.

    Marine Physical Fitness | Marine Initial Strength Test | Marines.com
    APFT : Army Physical Fitness Test | Army.com
    Air Force BMT Physical Fitness Test - Military Fitness - Military.com
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    Military PFTs are not designed to measure how strong or able to do a job, but to measure overall fitness. For jobs that require a certain amount of lifting, or endurance, then tests to measure for that should be standard across gender. For everything else, what is being measured by PFT is the same.
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    Re: Physical Fitness Standards in the Military

    They should also meet physical attractiveness standards. We know why they're there.

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    Re: Physical Fitness Standards in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Military PFTs are not designed to measure how strong or able to do a job, but to measure overall fitness. For jobs that require a certain amount of lifting, or endurance, then tests to measure for that should be standard across gender. For everything else, what is being measured by PFT is the same.
    So, by this logic, you are acknowledging that women are less capable than men physically correct? For example, a perfect score on the Marine Corps 3 mile run is 18 min for males, 21 for females. So you're saying that at their peaks, men are a half mile better than women. Or, according to pullups, maximum is 20 for men, 8 for women. So women are less than half as capable as men in upper body strength. Is this a correct assertion?
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    Re: Physical Fitness Standards in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Should females be required to meet the same physical fitness standards as males? The difference in standards is astounding, no matter what service's standards you look at. This is especially true of the Marine Corps and Army standards though. Below are links to all 4 branches of the military's physical fitness standards.

    Marine Physical Fitness | Marine Initial Strength Test | Marines.com
    APFT : Army Physical Fitness Test | Army.com
    Air Force BMT Physical Fitness Test - Military Fitness - Military.com
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    Hm. At 47 I'm pretty sure I could pass all the req's except the running part. I just don't have the wind for that anymore, and the knee injury doesn't help any.

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