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  • Alot, secular decisions based on morality will reflect in the people that follow the law

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  • Religion is fine, but should be used minimally in secular decisions

    15 60.00%
  • Religion should be strictly controled/banned

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    Re: How much religion should exist in politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordenkalt444 View Post
    I think religion is fine but should be used minimally in legislative decisions.
    Religion in politics?


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    How much religion should exist in politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And laws made by our legislature should be based on objective evidence and rational argument. Religion offers neither. No amount of faith will make a law banning the mixing of wool and linen a law that the US can pass. It's fine if your morality comes from religion, but ideas about morality aren't enough to be the basis for a law in this country.
    Kind of ironic then how our justice system itself is influenced by Judeo Christian ethics.

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    Re: How much religion should exist in politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Religion has no place in legislation or the legislature.
    Can you stop it? And how would you ever really know how much one's beliefs influence one? Or not?

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    Re: How much religion should exist in politics?

    It is not the purview of the US government to decide what is or is not religious in the first place.

    The 1st amendment forbids it from taking that role.

    Is a rabbit's foot a religious object? To some maybe. How about a crucifix or a bible or the ten commandments carved in stone on a courthouse lawn?

    To some people I suppose those are religious symbols.

    However it is none of the government's business to decide.

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    Re: How much religion should exist in politics?

    Should be used minimally. I subscribe to the belief that it serves a utilitarian purpose that should not be allowed to roam free enough to define most political choices. It should also be given some good nods to in public discourse, because it helps stabilize the worst excesses of mankind.
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    Re: How much religion should exist in politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Sure it is: Thou Shall Not Kill=Murder statutes
    Do you really think that prohibitions against murder did not exist before Moses decided to tell people not to do it? Or that there are no non-religious reasons not to murder people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stopandthink View Post
    Kind of ironic then how our justice system itself is influenced by Judeo Christian ethics.
    See above, but frankly, our justice system specifically would be highly alien to anyone who lived during biblical times. The whole "innocent until proven guilty" idea, trial by jury... lots of it. Or any of our ideas about rights. These were people who thought it was cool to kill someone for lighting a fire on Saturday.

    So no, our laws are not based on the bible at all, nor is our legal system or government in any way based on biblical tenets. But none of that has any bearing on my original point that any law we pass in this country must have reasoning behind it greater than "god told me so".
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    Re: How much religion should exist in politics?

    None is impossible, it's literally plays into one's moral core and so on, just don't be a bible thumper within the legislative process.
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    Re: How much religion should exist in politics?

    Preferably none, but that's just unrealistic.
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    Re: How much religion should exist in politics?

    I have no problem with persons in politics following their religion, but I do have a problem with them if they try to force their religion on others.

    Everyone, atheist included, have a religious choice. So, there is no way to have a religious free government. We just have to be sure it favors no particular religion.

    Instead of bowing down to the atheist religion by taking symbols, prayer, etc. out of public/government owned places, we should be offering equal time and space to all religions, including the atheist.

    Separation of Church and State was supposed to allow no one religion to force it's religious views through government, not that religion should not exist in government.
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    Re: How much religion should exist in politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Can you stop it? And how would you ever really know how much one's beliefs influence one? Or not?
    If you are religious leave it at the door, you live in a world where everyone has different beliefs. It has no place in government which should always be secular.
    "What is considered sinful in one of the great religions to which citizens belong isn't necessarily sinful in the others. Criminal law therefore cannot be based on the notion of sin; it is crimes that it must define." - Pierre Trudeau

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