View Poll Results: Who is Your Favorite Founding Father and WHY?

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  • Washington

    4 8.51%
  • Adams

    2 4.26%
  • Jerfferson

    17 36.17%
  • Madison

    4 8.51%
  • Ben Franklin

    13 27.66%
  • other

    7 14.89%
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    Re: Who is Your Favorite Founding Father and WHY.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Ben Franklin, because he was a badass.
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    Re: Who is Your Favorite Founding Father and WHY.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Ben Franklin once kicked the **** out of a thousand ninjas with naught but a ball of twine and a lima bean.
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    Re: Who is Your Favorite Founding Father and WHY.....

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    With the whole slaves thing? Yeah, he could've played that better.

    Nevertheless, this highlights a few of the major differences between Jefferson and today's politicians:

    You could also expand that argument to include other Founding Fathers and the real politik of the moment at which they were weak in the nation's capabilities, but that would be too nuanced for an internet image.
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    Re: Who is Your Favorite Founding Father and WHY.....

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's interesting that you choose men with divergent political views. Adams and Jefferson barely spoke to each other until later in life. They each felt that the other's views were antithetical to the whole idea of the United States.

    It just seems like saying your favorite Presidents are Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.
    The former yes the latter was a moron
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    Re: Who is Your Favorite Founding Father and WHY.....

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It just seems like saying your favorite Presidents are Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.
    Bush and Clinton weren't all that far apart politically speaking. Not nearly as diametrically opposed as Adams and Jefferson were. I'd actually say that both of them are far more Adams-like politically speaking, as neither of them were particularly Jeffersonian.
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    Re: Who is Your Favorite Founding Father and WHY.....

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Jefferson. I agree with about 96.5% of his writings.
    WOW!!!!! I must admire your ability to place such a definitive number to that volume of writing!!!!!!!
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    Re: Who is Your Favorite Founding Father and WHY.....

    And on the issue of admiring or liking founding fathers who were political rivals, My favorite founder is Madison, but a close second would be Hamilton (some would argue that these two were the brains behind Jefferson and Adams, respectively. Granted, Hamilton moved away from Adams during Adams' presidential campaign because he didn't think Adams was being his bitch enough ).

    Politically speaking, I'm far more like Madison, but Hamilton has a lot of qualities I find admirable. And they acted like a intellectual checks and balances system of each other. Together, they guided the country down a middle course. They are the two people most responsible for the adoption of the constitution when they were allies together for the common good, but they became rivals when their respective visions came in conflict.
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    Re: Who is Your Favorite Founding Father and WHY.....

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    WOW!!!!! I must admire your ability to place such a definitive number to that volume of writing!!!!!!!
    I actually had to round up a few decimal places. I figured 3 significant numbers was enough.
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    Re: Who is Your Favorite Founding Father and WHY.....

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I actually had to round up a few decimal places. I figured 3 significant numbers was enough.
    How did you have to adjust the numbers when his writings changed their positions over such a long period of time?

    Did you only judge the actual writings or did you take into consideration if the man himself lived up to what he wrote on paper?
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    Re: Who is Your Favorite Founding Father and WHY.....

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How did you have to adjust the numbers when his writings changed their positions over such a long period of time?

    Did you only judge the actual writings or did you take into consideration if the man himself lived up to what he wrote on paper?
    I used a weighted averaging technique. The more important topics had a higher weight than the less important ones. It was a long and difficult calculation process, but I'd do anything for a random thread question.
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