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    Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    I think society has changed a lot since the 1960's.

    For one, the law has changed. Government's cannot force businesses to discriminate who they serve anymore. No more Jim Crow.

    We never really got to see whether businesses would discriminate if given the freedom to do so, they were told they had to and then told they can't. Both dictates are harmful I would argue, the first being obviously much worse than the second.

    Both profit motive and business image are good reasons why a business wouldn't discriminate. Any discrimination would likely be a statistical anomaly. A low percentage of people are truly racist in this country, an even fewer percentage of racist business owners, and even a fewer percentage of racist business owners who would take the risk to discriminate. And society continues to progress every day.

    The problem with anti discrimination laws is that they actually lead to minorities being treated differently. That only delays progress for equality in society. Another problem is that anti discrimination lawsuits are hard to defend against, and morally bankrupt our legal system.

    Do we really need laws against discrimination by businesses in 2013?
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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Yes, unfortunately, we still need those laws as to race. One of the things that make me tepid about the gay rights stuff is that it is just a matter of time until that one gets thrown in the mix which will make it even more of a minefield for employers on the potential nuisance claim end of the pool.

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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Based on my very limited experience of recent years, I would guess that service discrimination would be unlikely but in employment I suspect that there would be a temptation for management to hire those they are most comfortable with themselves. But it would be bad for business if you were obvious about it so maybe not even then.

    Las Vegas was a segregated city and I'm sure you all know that Sammy Davis had to use a service entrance, but over the years, I would say that racial crap has gone. Now, in the South or the North, I have no clue.

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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    I think society has changed a lot since the 1960's.

    For one, the law has changed. Government's cannot force businesses to discriminate who they serve anymore. No more Jim Crow.

    We never really got to see whether businesses would discriminate if given the freedom to do so, they were told they had to and then told they can't. Both dictates are harmful I would argue, the first being obviously much worse than the second.

    Both profit motive and business image are good reasons why a business wouldn't discriminate. Any discrimination would likely be a statistical anomaly. A low percentage of people are truly racist in this country, an even fewer percentage of racist business owners, and even a fewer percentage of racist business owners who would take the risk to discriminate. And society continues to progress every day.

    The problem with anti discrimination laws is that they actually lead to minorities being treated differently. That only delays progress for equality in society. Another problem is that anti discrimination lawsuits are hard to defend against, and morally bankrupt our legal system.

    Do we really need laws against discrimination by businesses in 2013?
    Not as much as we did back in the day but laws to protect the working person no matter what race, sex etc still need to be on the books. Mostly for the one person who it may actually happen to. It gives them a legal avenue for recourse without having to take the law into their own hands. It also deters company's from taking advantage on some level.
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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    I think society has changed a lot since the 1960's.

    For one, the law has changed. Government's cannot force businesses to discriminate who they serve anymore. No more Jim Crow.

    We never really got to see whether businesses would discriminate if given the freedom to do so, they were told they had to and then told they can't. Both dictates are harmful I would argue, the first being obviously much worse than the second.

    Both profit motive and business image are good reasons why a business wouldn't discriminate. Any discrimination would likely be a statistical anomaly. A low percentage of people are truly racist in this country, an even fewer percentage of racist business owners, and even a fewer percentage of racist business owners who would take the risk to discriminate. And society continues to progress every day.

    The problem with anti discrimination laws is that they actually lead to minorities being treated differently. That only delays progress for equality in society. Another problem is that anti discrimination lawsuits are hard to defend against, and morally bankrupt our legal system.

    Do we really need laws against discrimination by businesses in 2013?
    A sterling example of the rights' delusional thought process - We need to repeal laws against discrimination so businesses that don't discriminate can continue not discriminating
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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    A sterling example of the rights' delusional thought process - We need to repeal laws against discrimination so businesses that don't discriminate can continue not discriminating
    Oh please, like one person represents the right. I said the exact opposite and you completely ignore it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    Oh please, like one person represents the right. I said the exact opposite and you completely ignore it.
    ANd you are to be commended for doing so. However, your opinion is not representative of the right.
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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    ANd you are to be commended for doing so. However, your opinion is not representative of the right.
    That is an unfair blanket statement about as diverse group of people. It sounds as stupid as people saying "the left."
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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    I think society has changed a lot since the 1960's.

    For one, the law has changed. Government's cannot force businesses to discriminate who they serve anymore. No more Jim Crow.

    We never really got to see whether businesses would discriminate if given the freedom to do so, they were told they had to and then told they can't. Both dictates are harmful I would argue, the first being obviously much worse than the second.

    Both profit motive and business image are good reasons why a business wouldn't discriminate. Any discrimination would likely be a statistical anomaly. A low percentage of people are truly racist in this country, an even fewer percentage of racist business owners, and even a fewer percentage of racist business owners who would take the risk to discriminate. And society continues to progress every day.

    The problem with anti discrimination laws is that they actually lead to minorities being treated differently. That only delays progress for equality in society. Another problem is that anti discrimination lawsuits are hard to defend against, and morally bankrupt our legal system.

    Do we really need laws against discrimination by businesses in 2013?

    yes they would and thats obvious because they already get busted discriminating. And those are the stupid people.
    Many business still discriminate they just do it in a smart way to make sure its covered up.

    So theres only one factual answer and its yes.

    and currently has AA/EO laws are written it doesnt treat anybody differently. Some people CHOOSE to treat some groups differently but they arent forced to as a matter of fact if they did give special treatment to any group that breaks the law also.
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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Funny how the anti discrimination laws all tend to be on the employer/ business owner side, and yet activist groups can have public campaigns against businesses (think Chik Fila) because they don't like the owner's political standards. I think we need laws against that. You know, in the interest of fairness and all. Until that happens I will carefully interview perspective employees and find a reason to not hire liberals. My business calls for objective reasoning and I can't depend on them to be accurate.

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