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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The answer to this question is immaterial. It doesn't matter if people will discriminate with their property or not. They have the right to do just that and to strip that ability away from property is essentially stripping away a large part of property rights. I do have the right to control access to property, use of my property, and yes, even sale of my property. If you don't like it, boo ****ing hoo. These laws need repealed as they are a breach of property rights.
    I'm sure the slave owners whined about how their property rights were being violated as well. Its the time honored cry of bigots who whine about how persecuted they are for being unable to violate the liberty of others. Its the same depraved mentality of domestic abusers who get outraged when they can no longer torment their victims.

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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You mean protect each other from those mean people that want to fire you, don't want to hire you, don't want to sell you their property, don't want you on their property, etc? Yeah, what assholes practicing their right to control access, use and sale of their property. I hate them. Grrrrr..
    nope those people dont bother me at all, and they are free to do so
    not sure where your confusion is
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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    No vote
    No simple yes or no.
    This depends on the type and reason for the discrim..
    A business must be able to control things within their environment.
    In other words a business must be able to discriminate against the insensitive, the obnoxious regardless of the usual(sex,skin color, etc,etc).

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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    nope those people dont bother me at all, and they are free to do so
    not sure where your confusion is
    So I can fire anybody I want for any reason I feel like? That doesn't bother you?

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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I'm sure the slave owners whined about how their property rights were being violated as well. Its the time honored cry of bigots who whine about how persecuted they are for being unable to violate the liberty of others. Its the same depraved mentality of domestic abusers who get outraged when they can no longer torment their victims.
    Yes, because owning another person and doing your will with them is entirely the same as this.

    Do you happen to have any other worthless comparisons?

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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    I think society has changed a lot since the 1960's.

    For one, the law has changed. Government's cannot force businesses to discriminate who they serve anymore. No more Jim Crow.

    We never really got to see whether businesses would discriminate if given the freedom to do so, they were told they had to and then told they can't. Both dictates are harmful I would argue, the first being obviously much worse than the second.

    Both profit motive and business image are good reasons why a business wouldn't discriminate. Any discrimination would likely be a statistical anomaly. A low percentage of people are truly racist in this country, an even fewer percentage of racist business owners, and even a fewer percentage of racist business owners who would take the risk to discriminate. And society continues to progress every day.

    The problem with anti discrimination laws is that they actually lead to minorities being treated differently. That only delays progress for equality in society. Another problem is that anti discrimination lawsuits are hard to defend against, and morally bankrupt our legal system.

    Do we really need laws against discrimination by businesses in 2013?
    Do we need to get rid of them? Not really. It's a stupid thing to spend political effort on with so many clear injustices.

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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Not at all. It's all about human rights. If there are those who would take them away from a group of people? We need laws to protect those people.
    Indeed. In this case Congress took away rights from a group of people using a law, a law that could not be justified given the limits on their authority. Nothing protects our rights against our government but explicit limits on that government.

    Or, instead, were you suggesting that compelling someone to sell me a cheeseburger is a "human right?" Hopefully not.

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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    In this case Congress took away rights from a group of people using a law, a law that could not be justified given the limits on their authority.

    Again: bull****. The law was justified under a series of cases and is fully supported by the Constitutional authority of the legislative branch. You just don't like that fairly straightforward fact, so you chose to lie about it to yourself and others.

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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, because owning another person and doing your will with them is entirely the same as this.

    Do you happen to have any other worthless comparisons?
    Its an entirely accurate comparison. Property rights are not sufficient justification to use racism to violate the liberty of an individual.

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    re: Would businesses discriminate today? Are laws against discrimination necessary?[W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Indeed. In this case Congress took away rights from a group of people using a law, a law that could not be justified given the limits on their authority. Nothing protects our rights against our government but explicit limits on that government.

    Or, instead, were you suggesting that compelling someone to sell me a cheeseburger is a "human right?" Hopefully not.
    Oh, yes. If you own a restaurant and refuse to serve blacks (sell them cheeseburgers), you're violating their right not to be discriminated upon based on the color of their skin. You can piss and moan about it all you'd like, but I'm glad there are more "me's" in the world than "you's."

    Edit: Or do you believe, as some few do, that "all men are created equal" as long as they're white?
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