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    Re: Are you a libertarian if...

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Setting bail for an unreasonable amount would clearly restrict the freedom of a person who has only been accused of wrongdoing and who is presumed innocent until found guilty.
    Oh, I understand the theory well enough - and in most cases I would agree - but there are certain crimes that call for extra prudence on the part of judges.
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    Re: Are you a libertarian if...

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I've addressed your points every time, you're the only one here who doesn't see that.
    The specifics conclusions regarding labor economics? No, you haven't.

    Perhaps this is just a moot, or even tired point.

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    Re: Are you a libertarian if...

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Oh, I understand the theory well enough - and in most cases I would agree - but there are certain crimes that call for extra prudence on the part of judges.
    It's not just a theory, but also law.

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    Re: Are you a libertarian if...

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It's not just a theory, but also law.
    As I was told a long time ago by a lawyer - the "law" is only the opinion of a judge (and I'll add - or judges in some cases).
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    Re: Are you a libertarian if...

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    As I was told a long time ago by a lawyer - the "law" is only the opinion of a judge (and I'll add - or judges in some cases).
    Yeah, that guy should clearly be fired.

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    Re: Are you a libertarian if...

    there are different libertarian senses.
    some more social, some less social.

    but none of them forbid a libertarian to support business owners being able to exert power over employees.

    libertarian senses just limit business owners in the way how to exert power over employees.

    for a libertarian it´s a human right that someone can have more or less power, but the employee should be able to choose the way he wants to live.
    Last edited by jschie; 01-22-13 at 06:22 PM.

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    Re: Are you a libertarian if...

    Quote Originally Posted by jschie View Post
    there are different libertarian senses.
    some more social, some less social.

    but none of them forbid a libertarian to support business owners being able to exert power over employees.

    libertarian senses just limit business owners in the way how to exert power over employees.

    for a libertarian it´s a human right that someone can have more or less power, but the employee should be able to choose the way he wants to live.
    Is that a joke? Any entity exerting force over another is strictly against libertarian morality.

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    Re: Are you a libertarian if...

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    As long as that power isn't protected by the government, then yes. In most cases today you'll find big business is using the government as their muscle to protect their power. In a truly free market, an employee makes a voluntary contract with an employer, and no work will take place until both parties are happy with the terms of the deal.
    Yeah, happy, that's the word.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Are you a libertarian if...

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    Interesting. To you, the exploitation of workers and the widening of the gap between rich and poor is fine, provided the label slavery is absent.
    Exploitation is in the eye of the beholder and the wealth gap is driven a lot by demographics.
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    Re: Are you a libertarian if...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Exploitation is in the eye of the beholder and the wealth gap is driven a lot by demographics.
    How do you gather that? The second bit, that is.

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