I wish there were a workable solution, but I just don't see one, without alot of us getting on board.
"God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
-C G Jung
It depends on the person in question. There are however general rules and usually speaking gifts do not motivate people.What DOES motivate people?
Say they do, lol. What happens when folks are thirsty?
If you don't exert power over your employees, you're not a business owner. What else would you call the power to hire, fire or tell your employees what to do?
How much freedom do you have if you are constantly on your porch, guarding it against would be aggressors? How much freedom do you have if the only thing upholding so called law is YOU? Do you truly believe that, deep down inside, people are good natured and respectful? People are animals, and society is only ever 5 to 6 meals away from survival of the fittest, in the most literal sense. A man who needs something, needs it to live, does not care for whatever rules you would impose on him, beyond the forced used to impose it. Are you really desiring a society in which the everyday gamble is, you wield more force than the needy man? Your "natural" rights are all illusions, granted you by the very machine you hate. The very machine that makes large groups of people possible. Authoritarianism.Henrin;1061377101]Except that isn't calling for freedom, is it? No, it holding that rights are violated by those actions and restricting freedom in the process because of it. Lets not humor the idea you can do both at the same time.
Tips motivate most of the strippers who have ever given ME a lap dance, and strictly speaking, those are gifts.It depends on the person in question. There are however general rules and usually speaking gifts do not motivate people.
What motivates people, is the availability to acquire what they WANT, whatever that thing might be. And the best way for MOST of us to get what we WANT, is through the smoothness of life offered us by civilization. Hard to hang onto my corvette without authoritarian cops on every corner, making sure that what's mine stays mine, and I gladly pay for it, and I gladly give the go ahead for my hired thugs (government) to take from who they need to keep that ball rolling. Because, it provides the greatest level of liberty for us all, not just for a few.
Idiotic. Tips are not gifts, but income earned from services rendered. If you don't agree I question your presence in this thread.Tips motivate most of the strippers who have ever given ME a lap dance, and strictly speaking, those are gifts.
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I suppose I'll have to break this down for you. But just this once, cuz I gots to get to bed soon. This is what you said...Henrin;1061377357]You sure do enjoy talking of things I never mentioned. Did you not have enough material or was there perhaps no holes in my logic?
"Except that isn't calling for freedom, is it? No, it holding that rights are violated by those actions and restricting freedom in the process because of it. Lets not humor the idea you can do both at the same time. "
I made one word bold, because it's dead wrong. By giving up a certain level of liberty, we grant ourselves as a WHOLE, a greater level of liberty. You see, to me, guarding myself and my stuff all the time is NOT freedom. It sounds like a crappy life, constantly being on guard, on edge, etc. Having police frees me up from a LOT of that. Your counter is likely that we should self police. Well, we already do. Last time I looked, cops are US citizens. That we pay them from a collective fund only serves my second point...the greatest level of liberty for the whole, and not just for some. So, yes, you CAN do both at the same time. And once again...that's called compromise. We trade a little, to get a lot. You can quote Franklin all day long, but you'd be wasting your time.
If it's income earned, why is it optional for me to offer it?
Idiotic. Tips are not gifts, but income earned from services rendered. If you don't agree I question your presence in this thread.
Duly noted that you did not address the last portion of my post.