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    Re: 75% Prefer Term Limits - Do you?

    For president...yes. All others...no. Well..not really. We DO have term limits. 2 year terms for congressmen (I would like to see that change to every 4 years-get us out of this idiotic perpetual reelection cycle) and 6 year terms for senators. Where politicians represent their constituents well the choice of the people should not be limited.

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    Re: 75% Prefer Term Limits - Do you?

    No, I can speak form a country who does not have any we have had prime minsters who have served more than two mandates, five in fact. If the people still want them to lead the country after 8 years so be it.
    Last edited by Carjosse; 01-19-13 at 12:20 PM.

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    Re: 75% Prefer Term Limits - Do you?

    We have term limits. They are called periodic elections.
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    Re: 75% Prefer Term Limits - Do you?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    What the hell does transparency matter if candidate A had Warren Buffet give him 100 million, and candidate B had Bill Gates give him 100 million? Either way, both candidates are now in their pockets.

    I personally don't like my politicians to be bought, but to each his own.
    The people's right to participate is more important. Besides, they're only "in their pockets" if said candidate elected. This is where immediate full disclosure would help. Voters would know who contributed and how much, and would then be able to make their own (hopefully) informed decisions. Freedom of choice, what a concept!

    In my ideal world, campaign contributions would only be allowed between 90 days to 30 days prior to the election. No last-minute shenanigans, and no "off season" backdoor giving when nobody is looking.

    Also, money is not always a winning factor. Example: Michael Huffington (1994 California Senatorial election) and Linda McMahon (two Senate races).
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: 75% Prefer Term Limits - Do you?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    The people's right to participate is more important. Besides, they're only "in their pockets" if said candidate elected. This is where immediate full disclosure would help. Voters would know who contributed and how much, and would then be able to make their own (hopefully) informed decisions. Freedom of choice, what a concept!

    In my ideal world, campaign contributions would only be allowed between 90 days to 30 days prior to the election. No last-minute shenanigans, and no "off season" backdoor giving when nobody is looking.

    Also, money is not always a winning factor. Example: Michael Huffington (1994 California Senatorial election) and Linda McMahon (two Senate races).
    All politicians are taking massive amounts of money from lobbyists. It is absolutely irrelevant if you know who your politician's puppetmaster is if he's still a puppet. What you're suggesting will do absolutely nothing to stop them.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: 75% Prefer Term Limits - Do you?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    All politicians are taking massive amounts of money from lobbyists. It is absolutely irrelevant if you know who your politician's puppetmaster is if he's still a puppet. What you're suggesting will do absolutely nothing to stop them.
    A citizen's right to participate is still more important.

    And we disagree on what the effect would be. All your idea would do is push the money underground and out of sight, which is worse.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: 75% Prefer Term Limits - Do you?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    A citizen's right to participate is still more important.

    And we disagree on what the effect would be. All your idea would do is push the money underground and out of sight, which is worse.
    You have a right to:
    - Vote
    - Picket
    - Shout from the mountaintops who the best candidate is

    You don't have a right to:
    - Buy candidates because you have a lot of money

    See the difference? Perhaps you could quote the section of the constitution or bill of rights that grants the right to buy politicians.
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: 75% Prefer Term Limits - Do you?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You have a right to:
    - Vote
    - Picket
    - Shout from the mountaintops who the best candidate is

    You don't have a right to:
    - Buy candidates because you have a lot of money

    See the difference? Perhaps you could quote the section of the constitution or bill of rights that grants the right to buy politicians.
    Oh, look, a shiny penny!

    There is no difference to see. As far as I'm concerned you have just acknowledged that you're on the ropes, and know it, but would never admit it. You've trotted out the standard "quote me in the Constitution" strawman. Contrary to some people's desires or perceptions, the Constitution and Bill of Rights aren't the definitive be-all-and-end-all of what is allowed and what is not. (You probably know that, too, but acknowledgement would be inconvenient)

    Attempt at distraction due to lack of a better argument dismissed.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: 75% Prefer Term Limits - Do you?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Oh, look, a shiny penny!

    There is no difference to see. As far as I'm concerned you have just acknowledged that you're on the ropes, and know it, but would never admit it. You've trotted out the standard "quote me in the Constitution" strawman. Contrary to some people's desires or perceptions, the Constitution and Bill of Rights aren't the definitive be-all-and-end-all of what is allowed and what is not. (You probably know that, too, but acknowledgement would be inconvenient)

    Attempt at distraction due to lack of a better argument dismissed.
    I gave you a ridiculous response for your ridiculous claim that it's a right to be able to buy politicians.
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: 75% Prefer Term Limits - Do you?

    No. Term limits are pointless. Whats the point of term limits? Having to go through an election is a challenge and if the people voted for said candidate why sould a term limit hold back the will of the people?


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