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Thread: Was Ronald Reagan a worse traitor to his Party than Chris Christie is to his?

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    Was Ronald Reagan a worse traitor to his Party than Chris Christie is to his?

    I'm simply curious if those who believe that a member of a Party must always stick with that Party on all issues, all the time feel the same about Reagan as they do about Christie.

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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a worse traitor to his Party than Chris Christie is to his?

    Reagan was a sock puppet who believed all those around him had his interest at heart. Well intentioned and well spoken, but utterly inept when it came to decision making, especially in his second term.

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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a worse traitor to his Party than Chris Christie is to his?

    Naw, the OP is truly desperate in the comparison given the time span between Reagan's statement and when he ran.

    Reagan was a Democrat when he endorsed Truman. Christie is a Republican when he endorsed Obama after endorsing Romney, and since has engaged singularly in attacking Republicans, without the decency to switch parties.

    The Democrats should make Christie their 2016 presidential candidate given how now to them the is the quinessentially honest and exactly correct on everything politician.
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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a worse traitor to his Party than Chris Christie is to his?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Reagan was a sock puppet who believed all those around him had his interest at heart. Well intentioned and well spoken, but utterly inept when it came to decision making, especially in his second term.
    I don't disagree, but I'm more curious about the possible comparison between Christie - still a Republican, despite his dismay with the Party - and Ronald Reagan - who bolted his Party when they became too unpalatable to him.
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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a worse traitor to his Party than Chris Christie is to his?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I'm simply curious if those who believe that a member of a Party must always stick with that Party on all issues, all the time feel the same about Reagan as they do about Christie.
    It doesn't work like that, not with either party. The presidents who take the office and then actually lead their parties become the party standard - it's what makes them one of the "greats". All that they did before is then seen through that lens. Christie doesn't have that sort of reach, that sort of potential.

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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a worse traitor to his Party than Chris Christie is to his?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It doesn't work like that, not with either party. The presidents who take the office and then actually lead their parties become the party standard - it's what makes them one of the "greats". All that they did before is then seen through that lens. Christie doesn't have that sort of reach, that sort of potential.
    Ronald Reagan wasn't even a Governor when he bolted for the Republicans, let alone a "President who (took) the office" and then led his Party. He was at least as traitorous as Christie - unless you mean to tell me that internal dissent is worse than leaving for an external Party.
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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a worse traitor to his Party than Chris Christie is to his?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I'm simply curious if those who believe that a member of a Party must always stick with that Party on all issues, all the time feel the same about Reagan as they do about Christie.

    In 1948, and up until 1962, Reagan was a Democrat. So campaigning for Truman was party loyalty to his party at the time.


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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a worse traitor to his Party than Chris Christie is to his?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    In 1948, and up until 1962, Reagan was a Democrat. So campaigning for Truman was party loyalty to his party at the time.
    I post a video to make the point that Reagan was a Democrat in good standing for years -- as long as Christie has been a known Republican.
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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a worse traitor to his Party than Chris Christie is to his?

    So let me get this straight: it's less an act of betrayal to up and leave a political Party than it is to simply criticize the direction it's going in?

    Really? You genuinely believe that, or you simply want to spare Reagan any and all criticism?
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    Re: Was Ronald Reagan a worse traitor to his Party than Chris Christie is to his?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I post a video to make the point that Reagan was a Democrat in good standing for years -- as long as Christie has been a known Republican.
    Traitor to party though would be going against his party. Until he switched, he did the loyal Democrat thing. After that, he did the loyal Republican thing.

    I don't think it's bad for a politician to change parties if the party's views no longer reflect his own. In fact, I think that shows more integrity than staying a member of that party.


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