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    Which most concerns Libs? The Black condition or Liberal ideology?

    Which most concerns Libs? The Black condition or Liberal ideology?


    ...liberals' devotion to their ideology greatly exceeds their concern about what actually happens to flesh and blood human beings as a result of their ideology.
    Housing. Minimum wage laws and unemployment. The welfare system and the family. Affirmative action. School busing and education. Gun control.

    In all these cases, and many others, liberals take positions that make them look good and feel good -- and show very little interest in the actual consequences for others, even when liberal policies are leaving havoc in their wake.
    Liberalism Versus Blacks - Thomas Sowell

    It is columns like this one I've cited that illustrates why Thomas Sowell is considered one of America's greatest columnists.
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    Re: Which most concerns Libs? The Black condition or Liberal ideology?

    Obvious bait thread is obvious.


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    Re: Which most concerns Libs? The Black condition or Liberal ideology?

    I don't know about housing or unemployment but its common knowledge that many democratic senators at the time of the passing of minimum wage where in support of it because they believed it would push blacks out the market. The idea was that blacks where taking jobs away from their white counterparts for less money and according to these senators this was something that needed to be stopped. If you look at the results of minimum wage when talking about unemployment numbers in the black population you will notice they are higher than they were at the passing of minimum wage. If anyone cares the trend of black unemployment before the passing of minimum wage was that it was getting lower every year which hasn't happened since regardless of what people think. How minimum wage works is that it destories the chance to give rates lower than the one mandated and as such it becomes apparent to anyone that knows a damn thing about capitalism that it acts to lower employment of lower skilled individuals and will shift employment to those that are worth the new mandated rate. People enjoy denying this but black unemployment before and after minimum wage shows they are wrong.
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    Re: Which most concerns Libs? The Black condition or Liberal ideology?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Obvious bait thread is obvious.
    Blame Thomas Sowell.

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    Re: Which most concerns Libs? The Black condition or Liberal ideology?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Obvious bait thread is obvious.
    See, that's why nothing ever gets done on this stuff. Instead of addressing the issue it's easier to say that the other guy is baiting or, if you want to get political, he's a racist or hate monger or conservative nut job.......anything to deflect and avoid talking about a very real problem.


    Why not start by answering a simple question....we have a number of rather blighted communities in many of our urban centers where crime, poverty and violence are far more prevalent than in other areas. Do those areas tend to be inhabited primarily by minorities or not? Then, once you answer that, tell me why, after decades of liberal policies directing money, material and personnel into those areas to "help", why do those areas still exist and what problems have those policies solved?

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    Re: Which most concerns Libs? The Black condition or Liberal ideology?

    [ TITLE: 11pm, JULY 25th 1967 ]

    PRESIDENT LYNDON B. JOHNSON: Law and order have broken down in Detroit, Michigan. Pillage, looting, murder…

    VO: Only a few years before, President Johnson had promised policies that would create a new and a better world in America. He had called it "the Great Society."

    [ TITLE: President LYNDON JOHNSON, 1964 ]

    JOHNSON: The Great Society is in place where every child can find knowledge to enrich his mind. It is a place where the City of Man…

    VO: But now, in the wake of some of the worst riots ever seen in America, that dream seemed to have ended in violence and hatred. One prominent liberal journalist called Irving Kristol began to question whether it might actually be the policies themselves that were causing social breakdown.

    IRVING KRISTOL: If you had asked any liberal in 1960, we are going to pass these laws, these laws, these laws, and these laws, mentioning all the laws that in fact were passed in the 1960s and ‘70s, would you say crime will go up, drug addiction will go up, illegitimacy will go up, or will they get down? Obviously, everyone would have said, they will get down. And everyone would have been wrong. Now, that's not something that the
    liberals have been able to face up to. They've had their reforms, and they have led to consequences that they
    did not expect and they don't know what to do about.

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    They've had their reforms, and they have led to consequences that they did not expect and they don't know
    what to do about.



    What they've done is to make use of their mistakes to better their own fortunes!
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    Re: Which most concerns Libs? The Black condition or Liberal ideology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    See, that's why nothing ever gets done on this stuff. Instead of addressing the issue it's easier to say that the other guy is baiting or, if you want to get political, he's a racist or hate monger or conservative nut job.......anything to deflect and avoid talking about a very real problem.


    Why not start by answering a simple question....we have a number of rather blighted communities in many of our urban centers where crime, poverty and violence are far more prevalent than in other areas. Do those areas tend to be inhabited primarily by minorities or not? Then, once you answer that, tell me why, after decades of liberal policies directing money, material and personnel into those areas to "help", why do those areas still exist and what problems have those policies solved?
    Because I'm smart enough not to take the bait. It's a circular question -- damned if you do, damned if you don't.


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    Re: Which most concerns Libs? The Black condition or Liberal ideology?

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    Blame Thomas Sowell.

    He's not the one posting garbage polls.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Re: Which most concerns Libs? The Black condition or Liberal ideology?

    3. Baiting/Flaming/Trolling - To bait someone in a general sense is to make a comment with a purposeful intent to coerce some form of response from the individual
    That's in the forum rules. But I guess the mods are blind.


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    Re: Which most concerns Libs? The Black condition or Liberal ideology?

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