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Thread: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If the government denies the citizenry the right to have firearms, then the right is violated. That has always been my position. That is still my position.
    but you have said owning one single shot rifle would mean you are enjoying your second amendment rights. at what point does magazine restrictions or number of weapons you can own become a violation?

    it seems to me a clear bright line that makes sense is that if CIVILIAN police officers can use something OTHER Civilians should be able to own it

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    Here's a compromise.

    Give us the same weapons the government has access to, but keep explosives regulated.

    There. Compromise.
    Excellent! I just love common sense. I'm in!
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There is not one word in the Second Amendment which states anything about owning comparable or same weapons as police officers. I do NOT make a judgment about what weapons people should have. Those decisions are made jointly by the citizen and by the duly elected representatives of the peoples government in accordance with the Constitution.
    true, the intent was that we have the same weapons individual infantry soldiers have. That is why having the same stuff cops have is a no brainer. we should have M16 and M4 rifles.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    but you have said owning one single shot rifle would mean you are enjoying your second amendment rights. at what point does magazine restrictions or number of weapons you can own become a violation?

    it seems to me a clear bright line that makes sense is that if CIVILIAN police officers can use something OTHER Civilians should be able to own it
    Hah! Waiting for a response to this!!
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true, the intent was that we have the same weapons individual infantry soldiers have. That is why having the same stuff cops have is a no brainer. we should have M16 and M4 rifles.
    The Second Amendment says no such thing.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Hah! Waiting for a response to this!!
    what is it exactly that you feel is worthy of a response? It has already been well established that those using such an argument clearly do NOT understand that the role and duty of a police officer has nothing to do with the Second Amendment. Police officers the world over carry weapons that citizens are not allowed to have regardless if those nations and people have a right to bear arms or not. The carrying of arms by police officers has nothing to do with the Second Amendment and it is thus irrelevant to the discussion.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The Second Amendment says no such thing.
    Heh - it does not say no either - fail.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The Second Amendment says no such thing.
    Sure it does, indeed the Miller decision implies that. so tell us Haymarket-what is your opinion on what weapons are involved in our right to keep and bear them

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Heh - it does not say no either - fail.
    That makes no sense. The Second Amendment - just like any other amendment - is only important for what it says.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Sure it does, indeed the Miller decision implies that. so tell us Haymarket-what is your opinion on what weapons are involved in our right to keep and bear them
    The Second Amendment does not say that. Feel free to quote from it and show us the parts where it does.

    Here it is in its complete and full glory with nothing edited, changed or omitted

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
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