View Poll Results: Would this compromise be acceptable?

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  • Yes. This isnít perfect, but no compromise is.

    12 12.90%
  • No. I donít mind some compromise, but this still takes away too much.

    13 13.98%
  • No. We should never compromise our gun rights.

    61 65.59%
  • No. This still gives too many gun ownership privileges.

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Thread: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    are you a NY City police officer? If not, your question is irrelevant.
    No, but he, or any of us, may need to respond to a militia call-up.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    People can believe anything they want to believe. That is the funny thing about faith. It is all based on you believing something because you want to believe it.

    Those beliefs are also irrelevant to what the Second Amendment actually says.
    So you don't think that the people ought to be able to own the same weapons carried by police officers. Okay, so what firearms DO you think citizens ought to be allowed?

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that isn't the issue-the second amendment says that our rights to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed PERIOD

    but I was asking you to state YOUR opinion given you are here on a gun thread and the issue involves gun rights and compromises involving rights that should not be compromised
    Yes it does. It does NOT say the things that you are claiming are in it such as the rights to have comparable firearms to police officers performing their duty.

    If you do NOT have rights that you believe you have, how can what you do not have be compromised?
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sell maybe you will tell us what you actually believe the second amendment states and at what point it is violated. I believe many other posters have asked the same as well
    If the government denies the citizenry the right to have firearms, then the right is violated. That has always been my position. That is still my position.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    No, but he, or any of us, may need to respond to a militia call-up.
    Never heard of it. Could you please provide for us a record of such and the official listing of equipment that a member was expected to provide and bring with them?
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    So you don't think that the people ought to be able to own the same weapons carried by police officers. Okay, so what firearms DO you think citizens ought to be allowed?
    There is not one word in the Second Amendment which states anything about owning comparable or same weapons as police officers. I do NOT make a judgment about what weapons people should have. Those decisions are made jointly by the citizen and by the duly elected representatives of the peoples government in accordance with the Constitution.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    If they renew the assault weapons ban, it will grandfather in those that already exist. That is the only way the assault weapons ban could be passed, and at the same time a big part of what will make a new assault weapons ban ineffective.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    What's an assault weapon?
    Newspapers have killed more flies than any weapon designed for the purpose.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There is not one word in the Second Amendment which states anything about owning comparable or same weapons as police officers. I do NOT make a judgment about what weapons people should have. Those decisions are made jointly by the citizen and by the duly elected representatives of the peoples government in accordance with the Constitution.
    Police officers are not mentioned in the Constitution, let alone the 2nd Amendment. I do NOT make a judgment about police. I like this game.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Police officers are not mentioned in the Constitution, let alone the 2nd Amendment. I do NOT make a judgment about police. I like this game.
    Nor do they need to be since the carrying of a weapons by a police officer has nothing to do with the Second Amendment or the Constitution.

    That is why these comparisons between what a civilian can carry and what a police officer has for use is pointless and irrelevant.
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