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  • No. We should never compromise our gun rights.

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    A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    Do you read STV, oh unbiased one? What is their opinion on gun law?
    Opinions. Good. I LIKE opinions. Almost ALWAYS ideologically driven but always good for a laugh. However their OPINION is irrelevant to the FACT that the anti-gun crowd lied about what guns were used. They exploited dead children to promote an ideological cause. That is the FACTS.

    That being said...DO offer a link to whatever you would like. I'm ALWAYS up for a good laugh.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Opinions. Good. I LIKE opinions. Almost ALWAYS ideologically driven but always good for a laugh. However their OPINION is irrelevant to the FACT that the anti-gun crowd lied about what guns were used. They exploited dead children to promote an ideological cause. That is the FACTS.

    That being said...DO offer a link to whatever you would like. I'm ALWAYS up for a good laugh.
    Your view of the activities of your anti-gun lobby do not change what happened to those children.

    Laughing is inappropriate. Selfishness is inappropriate. It's time to think of someone other than yourself.

    Hopefully it will be taken out of your hands and the people who are tasked with running your country will have the balls to act and the ability to enforce.

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    A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    Your view of the activities of your anti-gun lobby do not change what happened to those children.

    Laughing is inappropriate. Selfishness is inappropriate. It's time to think of someone other than yourself.

    Hopefully it will be taken out of your hands and the people who are tasked with running your country will have the balls to act and the ability to enforce.
    "So ya got no clothes..."

    Yes....yessssss...promote a police state in your zeal to rid the world of assault rifles and mindlessly attempt to divert the 'cause' to the 'gun lobbies'. Run that playbook like a boss. Ignore the reality...cling to the mindless ideology.

    They make good pets.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    "So ya got no clothes..."
    Fully dressed, I assure you. You may feel free to respond to any one of the points (you can't counter) in the previous posts.

    Yes....yessssss...promote a police state in your zeal to rid the world of assault rifles and mindlessly attempt to divert the 'cause' to the 'gun lobbies'. Run that playbook like a boss. Ignore the reality...cling to the mindless ideology.

    They make good pets.
    In the real rest of the world, many diverse civilised peoples live without guns, far less assault rifles, and don't have any problems with Police getting into a state.

    Why don't you tell me why you think it's a good idea for your metaphoric mad neighbour to have an assault rifle?

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    A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    Fully dressed, I assure you. You may feel free to respond to any one of the points (you can't counter) in the previous posts.



    In the real rest of the world, many diverse civilised peoples live without guns, far less assault rifles, and don't have any problems with Police getting into a state.

    Why don't you tell me why you think it's a good idea for your metaphoric mad neighbour to have an assault rifle?
    Its a quote from a movie. Means a helluva lot more than you are naked.
    I don't fear my neighbors. The facts are that more people are killed in this country every year with hammers than rifles of ANY kind. I know...that's one of those inconvenient things that gets in the way of your mindless ideology...but thems IS the facts...whether you like it or not.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Its a quote from a movie. Means a helluva lot more than you are naked.
    I don't fear my neighbors. The facts are that more people are killed in this country every year with hammers than rifles of ANY kind. I know...that's one of those inconvenient things that gets in the way of your mindless ideology...but theme IS the facts...whether you like it or not.
    It's a quote from a centuries old fairly tale, long before your movie and I know what it means.

    The stats you refer to are inaccurate. Feel free to post them.

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    A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    It's a quote from a centuries old fairly tale, long before your movie and I know what it means.

    The stats you refer to are inaccurate. Feel free to post them.
    it was a direct quote from a movie but means very much the same as the fable. You have no clothes. You cling to a mindlessly ideological driven premise and ignore facts and reality. You cling to the idea of "lets ban the evil guns" and ignore the day to day violence. Cuz dealing with actual criminals and thugs...well...that's 'hard'. You might have to actually engage people and not just an inanimate object.

    But I will accept that challenge, on only one condition. My experience is mindless ideologues ignore facts, even when asked for and received. So...on the chance that I am right and can in fact provide a source (would the compiled FBI statistics suffice?) that shows more people in the US were beaten to death than shot with a rifle, will you then admit that you are in fact a mindless ideologue driven only by a 'cause', not the facts? Simple challenge and one you should accept with confidence I think (though you might want to do a quick google search before accepting that challenge. There is POSSIBLY a reason why I made such a specific comparison). Ball is in your court.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    It's a quote from a centuries old fairly tale, long before your movie and I know what it means.

    The stats you refer to are inaccurate. Feel free to post them.

    The Volokh Conspiracy Ľ Are Blunt Objects More Common Homicide Weapons Than Rifles?

    According to the FBI annual crime statistics, the number of murders committed annually with hammers and clubs far outnumbers the number of murders committed with a rifle.... [For instance, i]n 2005, the number of murders committed with a rifle was 445, while the number of murders committed with hammers and clubs was 605....

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    it was a direct quote from a movie but means very much the same as the fable. You have no clothes. You cling to a mindlessly ideological driven premise and ignore facts and reality. You cling to the idea of "lets ban the evil guns" and ignore the day to day violence. Cuz dealing with actual criminals and thugs...well...that's 'hard'. You might have to actually engage people and not just an inanimate object.
    You're describing your own attitudes.

    Shooting people is different from dealing with them. Shooting people who may be dealt with in another way, is removing their basic rights and freedoms.

    But I will accept that challenge, on only one condition. My experience is mindless ideologues ignore facts, even when asked for and received. So...on the chance that I am right and can in fact provide a source (would the compiled FBI statistics suffice?) that shows more people in the US were beaten to death than shot with a rifle, will you then admit that you are in fact a mindless ideologue driven only by a 'cause', not the facts? Simple challenge and one you should accept with confidence I think (though you might want to do a quick google search before accepting that challenge. There is POSSIBLY a reason why I made such a specific comparison). Ball is in your court.
    No, the FBI stats would not suffice, as I read them last week when the mad squad were posting them and found the article posted to be inaccurate. I posted stats to evidence that in a thread here. Strangely the post seems to have disappeared from my history. Which is sad for me because I cleared my cache yesterday, it is lateish here and I will now be forced to take time to relocate the stupid stats just in order to inform you.

    Hmhhh thought it was quiet around here.

    Did the word "conspiracy" go over your head? Are you posting that joke of a site as a serious source?

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    A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    You're describing your own attitudes.

    Shooting people is different from dealing with them. Shooting people who may be dealt with in another way, is removing their basic rights and freedoms.



    No, the FBI stats would not suffice, as I read them last week when the mad squad were posting them and found the article posted to be inaccurate. I posted stats to evidence that in a thread here. Strangely the post seems to have disappeared from my history. Which is sad for me because I cleared my cache yesterday, it is lateish here and I will now be forced to take time to relocate the stupid stats just in order to inform you.



    Hmhhh thought it was quiet around here.

    Did the word "conspiracy" go over your head? Are you posting that joke of a site as a serious source?
    so thats a 'no' then.

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