View Poll Results: Would this compromise be acceptable?

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  • Yes. This isnít perfect, but no compromise is.

    12 12.90%
  • No. I donít mind some compromise, but this still takes away too much.

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  • No. We should never compromise our gun rights.

    61 65.59%
  • No. This still gives too many gun ownership privileges.

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Thread: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    You will never get an honest answer to this question.
    You were proven wrong. Please see my response in 363 which preceded this statement of yours attacking me.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Well, he's worked himself into a place where he is making mutually contradicting arguments, but he's too stubborn to admit it. I suppose a bit of cognitive dissonance is required for him to justify taking the party line on this one.
    You only believe this because you and others are either not grasping the point I made or are intentionally misinterpreting it to purposely engage in intellectual fraud.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Did they? Which sovereignty? The one they had before we invaded? The one we placed in there? Or a new one?

    And who said anything about giving up liberty? I said there are more effective ways, especially here.
    Giving up liberty is the premise of the thread. If the government attempts to remove or seriously restrict your second amendment rights, then not only is your liberty reduced, but it has been done so forcibly, meaning that the government has attempted to seize sovereignty from the people. According to our theory of governance, this means that the government has initiated a state of war with the people, and the people have the right to defend themselves.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    You will never get an honest answer to this question.
    clear your pm box

    now he is saying that no firearms are protected

    LOL

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Giving up liberty is the premise of the thread. If the government attempts to remove or seriously restrict your second amendment rights, then not only is your liberty reduced, but it has been done so forcibly, meaning that the government has attempted to seize sovereignty from the people. According to our theory of governance, this means that the government has initiated a state of war with the people, and the people have the right to defend themselves.
    What THEORY OF GOVERNANCE would that be?
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You were proven wrong. Please see my response in 363 which preceded this statement of yours attacking me.
    yeah, except, in post 363 you didn't actually answer the question.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    clear your pm box

    now he is saying that no firearms are protected

    LOL
    We have had this discussion before. That is why I was rather shocked to see you misinterpret what I said last night. Classes of weapons - types of weapons - are not given any special protection in the Second Amendment. If they are - please quote that section for me.

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    There is nothing there about protecting any type of weapons.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yeah, except, in post 363 you didn't actually answer the question.
    I sure did. I told you that a nail gun was not intended to be a weapon nor was that its intended usage so it has nothing to do with the Second Amendment.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What THEORY OF GOVERNANCE would that be?
    Start Here. This may take you a while, as apparently it is new to you.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Giving up liberty is the premise of the thread. If the government attempts to remove or seriously restrict your second amendment rights, then not only is your liberty reduced, but it has been done so forcibly, meaning that the government has attempted to seize sovereignty from the people. According to our theory of governance, this means that the government has initiated a state of war with the people, and the people have the right to defend themselves.
    No, it isn't. It's the pretense some have put forth. The thread is about a compromise. having some regulation, restrictions, is not a situation where anyone loses 2nd amendment rights, and certainly no liberty is lost. Your side is largely overreacting, as has become quite typical.

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