View Poll Results: Would this compromise be acceptable?

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  • Yes. This isnít perfect, but no compromise is.

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  • No. I donít mind some compromise, but this still takes away too much.

    13 13.98%
  • No. We should never compromise our gun rights.

    61 65.59%
  • No. This still gives too many gun ownership privileges.

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Thread: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Would my Est-wing hand axe count?
    You call that an ax?

    This is an ax:

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    You call that an ax?

    This is an ax:

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    Yeah, they were out of that model the day I bought mine. I just had to settle.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    You call that an ax?

    This is an ax:

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    here is my second favorite non-firearm CGB weapon


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    here is my favorite a cable forged Michael Bell Katana

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Authoritarians say the darndest things...when they are stamping on your face with their boot.
    Yes, but it hurts them too. We're all in this together. Keep the Republic or lose it, there is no try. If we lose it, we're all ****ed.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, we do not have those jobs. I did not pretend that I did; please abstain from lying. It's just that one has nothing to do with the other. Yes, police are armed as much as government wants to arm them, they have job, blah blah blah. I have a job too, one that is far greater. Protecting and proliferating the freedom and posterity of the Republic. And for that, we require the militia, and because of that the right of the individual to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    You keep wanting to somehow connect police with my rights; but the existence of the police as the armed division of the government set against the People does not alter my rights. So you can stop with that retarded argument.
    I did not say you lied. I said you were engaging in being disingenuous because of your invoking of the fallacy of false equivalency.

    And you have to rights to have comparable weapons with police officers so you have nothing to alter.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    really-so why don't you tell us what sort of infringements you think are allowed. I am glad that you and I agree-a browning over and under shotgun and a Beretta AR 70 select fire true assault rifle should be treated the same.

    somehow though, I believe that you think the government has the power to pretty much ban anything while I don't think the federal government has any proper power to regulate either except perhaps as to import duties since both are made in Europe
    Your rights under the Second Amendment cannot be INFRINGED. That is clear and I have made that crystal clear over and over and over again. If the government creates a nation where the citizenry cannot have arms to keep and bear, then they have been INFRINGED.

    I have explained this many many times.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I said you were engaging in being disingenuous because of your invoking of the fallacy of false equivalency.
    Which I did not do, which is why it's a lie. At no point did I say the citizen had equal job to the police.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There is misunderstanding of the right, but I fear it is not upon my behalf. Limiting the tools of the militia undercuts the militia, and the militia is a necessity to a free state. Will there be an affect? No, not significant, nothing beyond probably 1.5 sigma at best. And yet with these insignificant, perchance imperceptible, "effects" we have those joyously jumping up and down for government force against the free exercise of rights. You will get no safety, all you will do is to enslave yourself further to the government as it isolates itself from the People. This is the natural course of unrestrained government.
    I do not believe this was their intent. Nor do I believe today they would write the same amendment. Nor do I think you can restrain government today by use of weapons. Not here, not now. China for example could not be restrained by force. Countries we see degrading by using force have not restrained government, but destabilized life for all. Today, there needs to be a plan B.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well see that is interesting-in your post above this one I quoted you said all firearms have the same level of protection and now you claim that individual citizens do not have the right to own the same stuff police use

    which means you don't believe civilians have the right to own any firearm essentially since you have admitted each is protected at the same level


    or what you mean is that the second amendment does not apply to individuals which probably is how you can claim to be a big supporter of the amendment-you merely interpret it not to apply to the vast majority of the citizens in the USA
    Go back and read again what you think you quoted from me. Compare it to what I actually said and NOT to what you think I was saying. You should then see the fundamental and serious error you are making.

    I hope that helps.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    China for example could not be restrained by force.
    China has near 1/5 of the world's population. If they revolted, the government could not resist. If they had arms, they could easier defend their freedom.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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