View Poll Results: Would this compromise be acceptable?

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Thread: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Yes, typically they stamp an 'indent' in the sides of the magazine that prevents the follower from extending deeper to allow more cartridges. This doesn't change the original magazine dimensions in any way.



    If trade in were free some law abiding citizens might participate. I expect the older ones to be grandfathered in. Those manufactured going forward will be 'new law' compliant.
    and unless a federal law requires dates stamped on new magazines, who is to say when that owner of a Glock 17 in Rochester obtained those 17 round magazines he has now given if he comes to Ohio I can legally sell him one or 10 of the 100 or so I own

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Oh, OK, so the magazine would just have filler inside to limit the rounds to 7 but it would still be designed for the original gun. Right?

    So, if they pass new laws about this, do you think they are considering making you trade in your magazines (in other words, your original magazine is now illegal) or just won't let the original magazines be produced. I realize you can only guess but I'm curious what you realistically think might happen if the laws are passed.
    That's a good question and the answer will make a really, really big difference in how the legislation is dealt with. My guess is that if they go ahead with such a law they will either grandfather old style magazines (which will make them a whole lot more expensive) or, possibly, assess a serious penalty for anyone caught with one after a turn in period.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Of course it is not acceptable. After all, the Second Amendment very clearly says

    It is the undeniable right of every American nut job to have any freakin' firearm of any power made possible by technology for their use as long as they can get their hands on it and the peoples government and common sense be damned.

    Its right there in the right wing Constitution.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Thanks for your answer. Which outcome do you expect, grandfathering or confiscation by illegality?


    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    That's a good question and the answer will make a really, really big difference in how the legislation is dealt with. My guess is that if they go ahead with such a law they will either grandfather old style magazines (which will make them a whole lot more expensive) or, possibly, assess a serious penalty for anyone caught with one after a turn in period.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Of course it is not acceptable. After all, the Second Amendment very clearly says

    It is the undeniable right of every American nut job to have any freakin' firearm of any power made possible by technology for their use as long as they can get their hands on it and the peoples government and common sense be damned.

    Its right there in the right wing Constitution.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Of course it is not acceptable. After all, the Second Amendment very clearly says

    It is the undeniable right of every American nut job to have any freakin' firearm of any power made possible by technology for their use as long as they can get their hands on it and the peoples government and common sense be damned.

    Its right there in the right wing Constitution.
    so tell us Haymarket, at what number of rounds do limits violate the constitution

    Especially since NYS police routinely carry 17 round handgun magazines and 30 round rifle magazines

    seems to me honest people can debate whether us civilians can own military issued weapons that can be deployed by an individual soldier but are not individually issued such as SAMS or LAWS but its hard to argue that civilian defensive police weapons are outside the scope of the second

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Thanks for your answer. Which outcome do you expect, grandfathering or confiscation by illegality?
    it would be tough to justify confiscation

    I would hope if that happens it would be the end of the careers of those who enact such a law

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    I still can't comment on this proposal since I have no idea what is meant by the term assault weapon. How can I agree to ban something if I don't know what is going to be banned?

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I still can't comment on this proposal since I have no idea what is meant by the term assault weapon. How can I agree to ban something if I don't know what is going to be banned?
    I think hoplophobes want to define any weapon that is not a single shot musket as an assault weapon.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Thanks for your answer. Which outcome do you expect, grandfathering or confiscation by illegality?
    My guess is that they will go with grandfathering but it will be contested and thrown out. It may take a couple of years but it will go away.

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