View Poll Results: Would this compromise be acceptable?

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Yes. I find this perfectly acceptable and reasonable.


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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    opinion noted not shared. telling me I cannot own a gun that the second amendment says I can because I already own a different kind of gun is the same thing. Just as if I own a book that the left hates "Atlas Shrugs" and they try to ban "The Fountainhead" and claim I can already enjoy reading Rand and thus my rights are intact

    if I wanted to buy a different gun every day of the year, the first day I am told NO my rights have been impermissibly and unconstitutionally violated
    Your first example of the Jew and Mass belongs in a discussion about religion and the First Amendment.

    Your second about books belongs in a discussion about freedom of the press and the First Amendment.

    None of those things are relevant here nor are they being discussed.

    If you - by your own example - have purchased a gun on every day of the year and have 364 of them, and then you are told on December 31 that you can not buy one that day, you still have the others with which to exercise your rights. If you no longer have them, knowing of what the law says about the purchase of the gun on December 31, the problem exists with you and not the law since it was you who of your own free will and decision placed yourself in that position with the knowledge of the consequences.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yes. I find this perfectly acceptable and reasonable.
    that's because you are an anti gun advocate who would willingly strip the rights of conservatives that you don't find useful

    its like some homophobic bible thumper saying a valid compromise is that every gay who wants to engage in sodomy has to have a STD test the day before he has sex

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your first example of the Jew and Mass belongs in a discussion about religion and the First Amendment.

    Your second about books belongs in a discussion about freedom of the press and the First Amendment.

    None of those things are relevant here nor are they being discussed.

    If you - by your own example - have purchased a gun on every day of the year and have 364 of them, and then you are told on December 31 that you can not buy one that day, you still have the others with which to exercise your rights. If you no longer have them, knowing of what the law says about the purchase of the gun on December 31, the problem exists with you and not the law since it was you who of your own free will and decision placed yourself in that position with the knowledge of the consequences.
    opinion noted and not shared. and yes they are relevant. Its all about constitutional rights and since some are not willing to say what constitutes an infringement as to the second amendment, references to the other amendments prove edifying

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's because you are an anti gun advocate
    Because i favor restrictions on weapons that makes me "anti gun"? I own several weapons myself but somehow im "anti gun" because i favor restrictions?

    who would willingly strip the rights of conservatives that you don't find useful
    Only conservatives own assault weapons?


    its like some homophobic bible thumper saying a valid compromise is that every gay who wants to engage in sodomy has to have a STD test the day before he has sex
    That was a terrible analogy.


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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Because i favor restrictions on weapons that makes me "anti gun"? I own several weapons myself but somehow im "anti gun" because i favor restrictions?


    Only conservatives own assault weapons?



    That was a terrible analogy.
    what exactly do pro rights people get in return for that idiotic infringement on our rights

    what is an "assault weapon"

    and at what point does a magazine limit (currently well below what NY cops can use) become an impermissible infringement on our rights

    and we won't even get into the fact that the anti gun parts of that compromise have no empirical evidence of helping anyone other than criminals and pandering left wing politicians

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    opinion noted and not shared. and yes they are relevant. Its all about constitutional rights and since some are not willing to say what constitutes an infringement as to the second amendment, references to the other amendments prove edifying
    Which is like applying the standards for evaluating sushi when eating a steak and then saying "well its all about food".
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Which is like applying the standards for evaluating sushi when eating a steak and then saying "well its all about food".
    analogy noted and rejected as not relevant. rights that are guaranteed are often discussed when evaluating other constitutional rights. strict scrutiny for example is applied to laws that may infringe on rights no matter which amendment is implicated

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what exactly do pro rights people get in return for that idiotic infringement on our rights
    What?


    what is an "assault weapon"
    From my understanding an "assault weapon" are stronger weapons and have more power than a standard rifle or battle rifle, have selective fire, and a discharge magazine.

    and at what point does a magazine limit (currently well below what NY cops can use) become an impermissible infringement on our rights
    Well you do realize multiple USSC decisions have stated that congress has the right to regulate firearms...

    and we won't even get into the fact that the anti gun parts of that compromise have no empirical evidence of helping anyone other than criminals and pandering left wing politicians


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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    analogy noted and rejected as not relevant. rights that are guaranteed are often discussed when evaluating other constitutional rights. strict scrutiny for example is applied to laws that may infringe on rights no matter which amendment is implicated
    What you are attempting to do is move the goal posts to a different stadium and change the rules about the kicking of the field goal.
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