View Poll Results: Would this compromise be acceptable?

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  • Yes. This isnít perfect, but no compromise is.

    12 12.90%
  • No. I donít mind some compromise, but this still takes away too much.

    13 13.98%
  • No. We should never compromise our gun rights.

    61 65.59%
  • No. This still gives too many gun ownership privileges.

    4 4.30%
  • I can hit a target 400 yards away with my eyes closed.

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Thread: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Right, so what's in there then?

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    So you've got to have a high-fibre diet to keep your militia regular, and, of course, your right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    Therefore, the founding fathers gave carte blanc to every paranoid-schizophrenic to own and carry anti-personnel mines and SAW's. Now we get to Turtle's point, that that's a wee bit unreasonable, considering we humans have gotten quite efficient at projecting lead. So, therefore, despite the wording, infringement must occur, and Turtle likes to draw his arbitrary line at what police can use. Of course, some want the line arbitrary line in other places, hence all the arguing. But, going by what is there, there is no limitations at all.
    All one has to do is to then know the meaning of the word INFRINGED as it was used in the era of history at the time of the adoption of the Amendment to know that the Second Amendment is not at all what the gun lobby paints it to be.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Point what out? That the people may need to form a militia? It would seem that this would be obvious to any student of history.
    ancient history more aptly.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    And you point out this real world situation because...?
    because of the ridiculous and fallacious comparison of citizens with the equipment necessary for the job performance and duty of police officers.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    ancient history more aptly.
    If one considers the American war for independence to be ancient history, then yeah sure.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    because of the ridiculous and fallacious comparison of citizens with the equipment necessary for the job performance and duty of police officers.
    And you feel it necessary to point this out because...?

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    If one considers the American war for independence to be ancient history, then yeah sure.
    You do realize that it happened BEFORE the Constitution was written and adopted?

    And you do also realize it happened before the Second Amendment was written?

    So again, do you have recent examples of the militia being called up? And for those examples could you please include the list of items that each member was ordered to bring with them? Otherwise, your claim that people needs these weapons for possible militia call up is just engaging in fiction.
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    And you feel it necessary to point this out because...?
    because it is an important part of the discussion here.

    And now my turn ...... and you feel you have to ask these pointless questions to me because.......?
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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    If we are to renew the "assault weapons" ban, then let's grandfather it in. I.e., if someone legally owns an "assault weapon" before the ban takes effect, then they may keep that gun. Afterward, no such weapon may be legally purchased for civilian use.

    Would this be acceptable or not?
    Im not seeing a compromise there.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    I feel the second amendment compromise has already happened.
    Modern Full Automatic machine guns (made after 1986)and squad level weapons and above, are no longer
    allowed to be owned by individuals.
    The modern AR-15 is really no more than a light weight hunting rifle with a lot of accessory options.
    Note: none of those options include a full auto function.
    If the anti gun types want to ban all private gun ownership, our Constitution has an
    amendment process.
    Until the Constitution is amended, any infringement on any of the rights expressed in the Bill of
    rights, is an infringement on the Bill of rights itself.
    Our Government Officials do not get to pick and choose which of those rights will be infringed,
    and which will not. They have sworn an oath to uphold the entire document, not just pieces.

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    Re: A proposed compromise on "assault weapons"

    Why would I give up my rights in a compromise? Sorry, but the idea doesn't make any sense to me.

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