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Thread: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    What is it about the information above (most of which you provided) that would not lead one to think your assailant might have a gun? You live in a gun culture. Which is alien to the rest of us.
    You're assuming someone has to have a gun in order for me to be able to kill them with mine. That's not true. Let's assume this road-rager was completely unarmed: had he broken my car window with his fist, I could have legally shot him. If an unarmed bugler kicked in my front door at this very moment, I could kill them. If an unarmed rapist slapped the **** out some women and was forcing himself on her, I could kill him.

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    Why, did someone [attempt a forcible felony against you]?
    To which my answer would simply be "yes".

    Trying to brake into someone's car out of road-rage, especially while in traffic, is a forcible felony. Attempting to brake into someone's house while fleeing the police, especially after having just beat someone to death, is a forcible felony.

    The fact that someone is unarmed does not stop me from being able to shoot them.
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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post

    If you're teaching handgunning class, you're missing the point of those techniques.

    Nope. I feel very safe in saying I understand the point of all these things as well or (far) better than you.

    YOU're missing that A&A isn't always enough.





    More so where the potential attacker is armed.

    Yes, but that includes with a knife, bat or tire iron... or if there are two or three or more...

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    A modern gun grab isn't going to look like a door-to-door search. A modern gun grab is going to begin years before with registration. Then, when it's time for the grab, you'll simply be told to turn them in. You'll be given a deadline. At that deadline, if you haven't turned in a gun, your assets will be frozen until you do. If you say you don't have the gun to turn in, you go to jail for failure to report, which is why NY is tightening their gun-theft reporting laws. Even if you get away with faking a theft, you will still be held and charged with petty offences, basically harassed into bankruptcy, lose of trade certifications, your job, etc.

    So when you say "they'll get the bullets first", you won't be inside your home when you shoot, because no one is coming over. You will have to go to them to shoot. You will have to rob the bank that holds your money. You will have to go to the turn-in station and open fire. That's what you're saying you're going to do when you say "they'll get the bullets first", you're saying you will actively seek them out.

    Please, enough with all the tough-guy talk. Lets look at viable strategies on how to win the day.
    Your right about how you say its gona go down for the most part. Your wrong about violence and destruction not being a viable strategy. Its very viable stategy correctly and ruthlessly applied. Destruction is especially effective creatively applied. Do note there are MANY MANY forms of destruction most of which are not very physical. Of it does require people who do not have certain moral qualms.
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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Why would you assume someone came after me with a gun? That's just an odd thing to assume, quite out of place and an alien way of thinking.

    Someone thought I cut them off on the road. They tailgated me to a red light, where they then got out and walked up to my car. I had locked my doors and put my pistol on my lap. When the guy got up to my window I pointed at my gun, he turned right around and got back in his car, and drove a different way.

    A few years earlier, some gang-banger was trying to brake into my son's 2nd floor room, because he was fleeing from the cops, because he was just involved with a beating which resulted in the victim's death. I drew my pistol, pointed it at him and said "wrong house". He got an 'oh ****' expression, jumped down and ran off another way.

    A few years before that I was in a town with a feral dog and snake problem. That's why I originally started carrying a gun at all, for dogs and snakes.
    Feral dogs can be a bitch when they pack up. Good for target practice though. For those of you PETA twits I am with PETA myself. People Eating Tasty Animals. Besides the crows gotta eat too.
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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Feral dogs can be a bitch when they pack up. Good for target practice though. For those of you PETA twits I am with PETA myself. People Eating Tasty Animals. Besides the crows gotta eat too.
    Feral dogs are still open targets in the 'stan. You don't even need to request it....you see a dog out there, you call up "test fire" and shoot it with a machine gun. No questions asked.

    But shoot a dog with a much lower powered hand gun in some states and 'oh noes think of the children'.

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    I see you're a high quality poster, but you'll forgive me if I don't respond as your post appears to be lacking a point and containing an inept level of masterbaiting.
    Ah, the normal left wing attack nonsense. You said your country doesn't allow guns, thus you can NOT defend yourself against a rapist in the most effective manner. Is that not true? Has your government not taken away the best form of self-defense?
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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Ah, the normal left wing attack nonsense. You said your country doesn't allow guns, thus you can NOT defend yourself against a rapist in the most effective manner. Is that not true? Has your government not taken away the best form of self-defense?
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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Feral dogs are still open targets in the 'stan. You don't even need to request it....you see a dog out there, you call up "test fire" and shoot it with a machine gun. No questions asked.

    But shoot a dog with a much lower powered hand gun in some states and 'oh noes think of the children'.
    We have sheep that come by and grass the land around me periodicaly and the feral dogs will pack up and attempt to take one sometimes. I will come by shoot them for the shepards and take my pickup and back over em a couple times and then take em over by the crows. I back over them to keep the sheriff happy. He can say truthfully somebody ran over them if somebody calls them in. Dont know why anyone would though considering they would be on farm land. Its not like he is gona have the coranor do an autopsie on the mutts. Especially after the crows have at em. It pays me to shoot the feral dogs cause I dont have to take my dogs or cats to vet after a fight. Its great to live in farm country.
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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    If I was asked to voluntarily hand over my weapons? No.

    If a SWAT team showed up at my door and demanded them? I'd think of my family first.

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