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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Toss all you want, Jerry. You are assuming (and you know what they say when someone assumes!) that all people are ignorant and spineless. That is a huge mistake. I believe our government would probably agree with you... that will be their downfall if it comes to blows.

    I'm also confused about what 'internet tough guys' is supposed to mean, since it seems you are playing that card yourself... since you're pretty certain people will roll over and give what is rightfully theirs to the big daddy government.

    You underestimate people - and that is dangerous.
    Yeah that's why pro-gun put up such a huge fuss in 1987 and refused to comply with the Hughes Amendment. That's why no one registered their assault rifles and machine guns after 1987. That's why today no one gets a Class-3 to have an assault rifle or machine gun, everyone just does what they want.

    Oh wait....no they don't...

    We've already seen this fight before. We know exactly how it's going to go. History will repeat itself. A gun ban will be snuk in under much controversy, and you will be a good little citizen and comply. You aren't going to shoot a cop, so there's no point in talking tough.
    Last edited by Jerry; 01-17-13 at 04:28 PM.

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    In answer to the Poll Questions: NO! Not only NO!, but HELL NO!

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    In answer to the Poll Questions: NO! Not only NO!, but HELL NO!
    If you don't want to be raped, you have to be willing to shoot a rapist. If you don't want your home burglarized you have to be willing to shoot an intruder. If you don't want to be assaulted in a road-rage incident, you have to be willing to shoot someone braking your car window.

    If you don't want your gun taken, you have to be willing to shoot the cop who comes to take it. You have to be willing to shoot a cop. You won't shoot a cop. You know it, I know it, because we saw it in 1987 when cops came to take assault rifles and machine guns.

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.
    James Madison

    Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense?
    Patrick Henry

    The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.
    James Madison

    Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms. <-------------------
    Aristotle

    The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.
    Samuel Adams

    Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property... Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.
    Thomas Paine

    No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms.
    Thomas Jefferson

    A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained in arms, is the best most natural defense of a free country.
    James Madison

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Oh really, Jerry? How in the **** do you know what I did in 1987?

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If you don't want to be raped, you have to be willing to shoot a rapist. If you don't want your home burglarized you have to be willing to shoot an intruder. If you don't want to be assaulted in a road-rage incident, you have to be willing to shoot someone braking your car window.

    If you don't want your gun taken, you have to be willing to shoot the cop who comes to take it. You have to be willing to shoot a cop. You won't shoot a cop. You know it, I know it, because we saw it in 1987 when cops came to take assault rifles and machine guns.
    People won't and shouldn't shoot police if they come to take away your firearms. I dare not post about the head-of-the-snake doctrine because, candidately, in this country of politics by non-violent revolutions I don't agree with it. Unfortunately, if a majority of people vote to have the government castrate the peasants and to have the government expose we-the-people to violent assault and murder - and the courts agree the government can do so - then that is what happens.

    There are ELECTED powerful people doing this. People voted for them. There are consequences of how people vote. And for not voting.

    That's why I have sometimes raised the ethical question of both defending and pitying people who voted (or apathetically didn't vote) for those politicians - and those who voluntarily decide it is against their ethics to defend themselves or their loved ones. To defend or pity such people if violence comes would be to violate their ethics.

    Instead, we should let happen what happens, and then congratulate them for willing to take violent assault, injury, rape, or the murder of a loved one for their anti-gun beliefs, as in "I totally disagree in that I do try to be able to defend my children, but for you to let your wife be raped and child murdered for your beliefs at least shows you have integrity in your anti-gun beliefs. I respect your right to have that belief too. That's why I only dialed 911 when I saw your home under attack by those two guys with masks kick in your door."

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Oh really, Jerry? How in the **** do you know what I did in 1987?
    This is a debate site. Claims are false until proven true. Pics or you did nothing.

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yeah that's why pro-gun put up such a huge fuss in 1987 and refused to comply with the Hughes Amendment. That's why no one registered their assault rifles and machine guns after 1987. That's why today no one gets a Class-3 to have an assault rifle or machine gun, everyone just does what they want.

    Oh wait....no they don't...

    We've already seen this fight before. We know exactly how it's going to go. History will repeat itself. A gun ban will be snuk in under much controversy, and you will be a good little citizen and comply. You aren't going to shoot a cop, so there's no point in talking tough.
    NOT everyone. I do have two beltfeed full autos (30.06 and 50 cal) that I inherited, and a silencer on a .22LR 1st Series Colt target .22LR - and I have ALL the paperwork for each and myself, done by an attorney. The last item took a PD Chief and a DA to sign off on, and I'm an FWC supervising officer. I was not for the firearms, just the silencer.

    And if I was ordered to surrender them I certainly would do so. Would I turn in 100% of all firearms I have? No, don't think I would. I think I would keep 1 Garand, 1 12 ga, 1 .22 rifle, 1 .22 handgun, and 1 Colt 1911, plus probably one pocket gun - selecting ones that were private puchases meaning legally no record I have them. MOST my firearms are that way. More, I would be focused on hiding away ammo as there is no inventory on that and I have LOTS. Tons. All the rest I would - unless we left the USA.

    If it became that extreme in this country, we probably would and could leave - practically and economically.
    Last edited by joko104; 01-17-13 at 05:14 PM.

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Actually, Jerry...I don't have a clue what you just replied and don't really give a rat's ass. I left my curiosity get the best of me when I saw that you had quoted something that I posted, logged off to read what you said as I have you blocked.

    Whatever you just replied with...is more than likely as repugnant as most all of your other post...so...

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    NOT everyone. I do have two beltfeed full autos (30.06 and 50 cal) that I inherited, and a silencer on a .22LR 1st Series Colt target .22LR - and I have ALL the paperwork for each and myself, done by an attorney. The last item took a PD Chief and a DA to sign off on, and I'm an FWC supervising officer. I was not for the firearms, just the silencer.
    That's exactly my point. When comes down to it, people will play by the rules even when they hate the rules.

    No one is going to shoot a cop, and so when the government decides to revoke your registration and order you to turn in your items, you will.

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