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Thread: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I call BS on that-lots of gun haters want to ban hunting how can you support "legitimate self defense" if you think honest people can be limited to 7 rounds 5 rounds, 3 rounds (Bloomturd's proposal one night on Night Line) etc

    tell me why my argument that we should clearly allow all honest citizens of age and clean backgrounds to own the same defensive weapons cops have is improper

    and how can a governmental entity honestly say that the stuff our tax dollars arms our civilian LEOs with "has not legitimate use" in the same society when owned by other civilians-many of whom are far better trained than cops (many of whom are not exactly in the front lines of crime fighting)
    It's true you can someone against or for anything, but these "gun haters" are small in number. Don't be too literal.

    And I've already addressed the cop question. Different job, different expectations, so they need more than you and me. You're drifting a bit, trying to just throw a bunch of silliness up. Go back over my argument.

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    In the hands of the American people, so that if necessary they can organized into a well-regulated militia, which is necessary to the security of a free state.
    Umm, in that realm, who's regulating the well-regulated militia? And in what way are they regulated?

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's true you can someone against or for anything, but these "gun haters" are small in number. Don't be too literal.

    And I've already addressed the cop question. Different job, different expectations, so they need more than you and me. You're drifting a bit, trying to just throw a bunch of silliness up. Go back over my argument.


    you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of lethal confrontations and the advantage of an instigator has over someone who has to react. If anything those protecting their homes and businesses should have heavier and more effective weapons than cops because homeowners and business owners almost always are reacting to an attack rather than choosing the time and place to start a gun fight

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Umm, in that realm, who's regulating the well-regulated militia? And in what way are they regulated?
    what does that have to do with regulating an inalienable right of the citizens

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what does that have to do with regulating an inalienable right of the citizens
    It has to do with the post I was responding to.

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Umm, in that realm, who's regulating the well-regulated militia? And in what way are they regulated?
    Once formed into a militia, they were to be regulated by a well educated officer core. Regulated as in disciplined and orderly.
    Different meaning than what you are implying.
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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by BretJ View Post
    Once formed into a militia, they were to be regulated by a well educated officer core. Regulated as in disciplined and orderly.
    Different meaning than what you are implying.
    Not really since there is no regulation in what you describe since there is no governing body to decide if said officer core is well educated, discaplined, orderly, or even competent. What you describe is self-regulation as defined by the militia itself, which may be anything but "well-regulated" but still considering itself "well-regulated." Shirley, there is a more clearly defined and enforceable description of "well-regulated militia."

    Also seems your meaning is different from that of the Constitution, which stipulates the federal government regulates the militia.


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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I wonder if I'll get a 'gun-grab' service ribbon for taking your gun away....
    Not me. I plan on joining the Oathkeepers.

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Also seems your meaning is different from that of the Constitution, which stipulates the federal government regulates the militia.
    Now that is a new one on me.

    Here is the text:


    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
    Where does it specify that the Federal Government is the one doing the regulating?

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Umm, in that realm, who's regulating the well-regulated militia? And in what way are they regulated?
    You might want to do some further research into what the authors meant by the term "well-regulated". It meant "properly functioning" or "in good working order".

    The founders knew that a properly functioning militia is necessary to the security of a free state, therefore, they forbade interfering with the people's right to keep and bear militarily relevant arms.

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