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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    All of the above, is incorrect.
    I quite disagree.

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    How about in circumstances like this one, where the Government is ussurping the Rights of The People.
    There are not enough guns to confront the US military, nor is there the outrage to even suggest it would happen. Sorry.

    Didn't Ben Franklin say something about Liberty and Safety? These "minor restrictions" (which I don't believe are minor at all) are the first steps down a road that it will be almost impossible to backtrack from. Once you allow this sort of thing to start with "reasonable" restrictions (as we did in 1934), it only gets worse. It never gets better.

    The "small" effect.... I know at least a half dozen individuals in the State of New York who are now actively seeking to move out of that State and into Pennsylvania as quickly as they possibly can. Including one who took today off from work as a nurse to begin moving her firearms out of the State before the new law takes effect.
    Franklin's comment was much more appropriate to the abuses we did during the Afghan and Iraq wars than here. And anyone is free to move anytime they want. I've lived inner city and never need a gun. If I did, I would have already moved.

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    How is banning the production and sale of a product, legal to be kept and born by some (that now own them, or work for the state), not infringement? Rights are not based on "need", or based on how many actually exercise them, that is some mighty twisted logic. You have no "need" to vote, you have no "need" to petition/protest the gov't yet you certainly retain the right to do so (whether you chose to do so in the past or not) in the future, just as all other citzens do. To say that all that now own a scary black rifle (SBR) are free to do so (forever), yet no citizen not so "blessed" will no longer have that right is hardly "equal protection under the law". If I now own a SBR how is it "fair" that I may freely keep or sell it, yet you may not buy a SBR that was not made before an arbitrary gov't defned date? Can you give me any example of another individual Constitutional right that was "phased" in or out for some, yet not applied equally to all?
    when banned, not really legal. That said, you mentioned state interest, and I gave you a state interest. "Need" was mentioned in the context of why there won't be much backlash. There are not enough who care. and they don't care because they have no need. Nor is there a constitutional right to own whatever weapon you want. The courts have repeatedly ruled that guns may be regulated, which includes what type you may own.

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I do not believe Constitutional rights are being infringed. That's the first thing. Secondly, such minor restrictions for a relatively small effect is reasonable. Again, being as there is no pressing need, nor even a huge desire, such a minor restriction is hardly troublesome. It effects a small number, and has a small effect. Again, reasonable.
    Excuse me, whether or not YOU believe MY rights are not being infringed is inmaterial to ME. I believe they are and for me, MY opinion is the one that counts.
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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    In order to maintain a Free State. A well organized militia is a necessity to keeping a Free State.
    I know the words:

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    However, we're discussing this comment:

    Maybe not, but we still need a citizen militia in general.

    So, I want a more specific response to the issue we're discussing.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Excuse me, whether or not YOU believe MY rights are not being infringed is inmaterial to ME. I believe they are and for me, MY opinion is the one that counts.
    Yes, I know a fellow who thinks it's his right to marry another fellow. I know another person who thinks it's is right to have crack. And there is even a fellow who thinks his free right to stand naked and pee at any local eating establishment. But, we have restrictions all the same. Some with better reasons than others. Some I too would stand up and fight to change. You're free to argue this is one of them. But, it is just a fact you won't get much support.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, I know a fellow who thinks it's his right to marry another fellow. I know another person who thinks it's is right to have crack. And there is even a fellow who thinks his free right to stand naked and pee at any local eating establishment. But, we have restrictions all the same. Some with better reasons than others. Some I too would stand up and fight to change. You're free to argue this is one of them. But, it is just a fact you won't get much support.
    Your right about that in regards to support. To be honest though, I dont really need it.
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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I know the words:

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    However, we're discussing this comment:

    Maybe not, but we still need a citizen militia in general.

    So, I want a more specific response to the issue we're discussing.
    It's rather obvious, is it not? The militia is a necessity to keep a free state. It may be that in our current age the necessity of the militia to fight foreign invaders has waned quite a bit; but that doesn't mean that it is absolved of all duty. The militia represents the ultimate check on the Government by the People and it's health and continuation is an important aspect in keeping a Free State.
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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    First, I don't think is a realistic outcome of the current gun control debate. But I have seen many claim that if the day did come, that gun owners would overwhelmingly comply and hand in their guns. I request that only people who either currently own a firearm or have in the past vote in the poll, but obviously all are welcome to post and discuss it.
    Where is ANYONE asking you to turn in your handguns, rifles, pistols?

    Why is it so unreasonable to require EVERY sale of a gun, etc to be registered?

    Where outside of Iraq and Afghanistan do semi-automatic, automatic and repeating rifles belong?
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    Re: Would You Give Up Your Guns?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post

    Why is it so unreasonable to require EVERY sale of a gun, etc to be registered?
    Because full registration makes confiscation oh so much easier. Do you really not understand that it's not the government's business if you own a gun, assuming that you are not a violent felon or criminally insane?
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