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Thread: Is It Time To Close Guantanamo Bay?

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    Re: Is It Time To Close Guantanamo Bay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Guantanamo Bay has been a US Military instillation all my life and certainly long before 9/11/01. I see no reason to shut it down. As far as the Camp Delta section where Al Qaeda POWs are kept, I'm not sure. Knowing how passionate Sen. Obama was about closing it then did a 180 once he became POTUS leads me to conclude there has to be some important national security reason for his change in position that he cannot share with the public.

    Since the War on Terror has gone on longer than anybody expected I could be talked into supporting the concept of offering each detainee the choice of having their status' changed from POW to criminal suspect and then face a regular criminal charge(s) such as murder or conspiracy to commit murder under Afghan, Iraqi, British, German, US law, etc. depending on where each infraction occurred with the real possibility of multiple trials per detainee when multiple jurisdictions are involved with sentences to be served consecutively but with time deducted for time already spent at Camp Delta.

    That's the funny thing about fighting wars against such broadly defined words. You can never win.

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    All of those have one thing in common...the cost a hell of a lot of money and they NEVER end.
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    Re: Is It Time To Close Guantanamo Bay?

    I think Gitmo is a great place to house this scum.....It is isolated and segregated unlike prisons in the USA...Keep them there forever.......
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    Re: Is It Time To Close Guantanamo Bay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I think Gitmo is a great place to house this scum.....It is isolated and segregated unlike prisons in the USA...Keep them there forever.......
    Yea you think that even after stats like this?
    "779 persons have been imprisoned in Guantanamo since January 11, 2002.166 prisoners are still detained in Guantanamo.
    603 prisoners have been released.
    1 Guantanamo prisoner has been convicted by US federal courts (Ahmed Ghalilani)."


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    Re: Is It Time To Close Guantanamo Bay?

    I think we should expand Gitmo. Send these thug gangstas down there to live out the rest of their lives.

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    Re: Is It Time To Close Guantanamo Bay?

    Yeah, Romney, Boehner, and Cantor at least would look good in an orange jump suit. Might have to special order one for McConnell though...

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    Re: Is It Time To Close Guantanamo Bay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I think Gitmo is a great place to house this scum.....It is isolated and segregated unlike prisons in the USA...Keep them there forever.......
    To be completely honest, I'm convinced the reason they're keeping them at Gitmo rather than someplace in the US is Gitmo is in Cuba. If they were in Indiana for example, Al Qaeda terrorists might be able to claim a whole list of rights under the US Constitution. Alternately, if they just let them go free its likely they'll get back to being terrorists.

    A messy situation for sure and the only guaranteed solution is to eliminate the terrorists motive, which is wash our hands of the Middle East and let them live the medieval lives they cherish so much in isolation. Problem is I can see us doing that as long as they're sitting on the world's largest known oil reserves. Add to that the fact that our own corporate interests have dug in their heels to do everything they can in hopes that oil maintains an EXCLUSIVE monopoly as the fuel for the personal transportation our economy must rely upon no matter how many people have to get blown up. They have convinced a major portion of the population that no other alternative to oil is nor can ever be viable until every last drop of oil is used up with the possible exception of natural gas, which they also happen to profit from ignoring and duping almost the whole counting into ignoring everything we know about the new technology business model.
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    Re: Is It Time To Close Guantanamo Bay?

    I still think we should declare our American punk ass gangsters, ie; Bloods, Crips, Latin Kings, Gangster Deciples, M13, etc, as domestic terrorists. Round them up, (they are very easly identified,) and send them all to Gitmo to make bitches out of those Islamaniacs.

    But that's just me....

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    Re: Is It Time To Close Guantanamo Bay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I think Gitmo is a great place to house this scum.....It is isolated and segregated unlike prisons in the USA...Keep them there forever.......
    Yeah...that is a great idea....let us keep housing SUSPECTED terrorists or scrubs with American tax payer money. Sounds great!

    I thought you were supposed to be "Very Conservative"....if you like wasting money than you are anything but conservative.

    Too many atrocities have been committed there by our own people. If we are to proclaim to provide rights and be free...we cannot let this go on. It should be closed.
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    Re: Is It Time To Close Guantanamo Bay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I still think we should declare our American punk ass gangsters, ie; Bloods, Crips, Latin Kings, Gangster Deciples, M13, etc, as domestic terrorists. Round them up, (they are very easly identified,) and send them all to Gitmo to make bitches out of those Islamaniacs.

    But that's just me....
    Thus the difference. Those on American soil are afforded US Constitutional rights; speedy trial, presumption of innocence, Miranda rights, legal counsel, no aggressive interrogation, no double jeopardy, rights to habeas corpus (which in the case of Al Qeada would give them legal access to highly classified intelligence to then publish on the Internet), etc. etc. That's the REASON IMHO they aren't allowed to set foot on US soil. Street gangs are certainly a menace to society but already being here gives them rights including not to be expelled to GITMO.
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