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    Would you support LESS restrictions on guns if this had the potential to save lives?

    I'm tired of threads and messages that assert gun control will save lives. In this country the government has increasingly added restrictions on firearms, and crime goes up, not down - thus making the assertion that gun control allows and causes more crimes. Gun control is what allows almost all mass shootings.

    So it is time to ask the question from the more realictic potential.

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    Re: Would you support LESS restrictions on guns if this had the potential to save liv

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I'm tired of threads and messages that assert gun control will save lives. In this country the government has increasingly added restrictions on firearms, and crime goes up, not down - thus making the assertion that gun control allows and causes more crimes. Gun control is what allows almost all mass shootings.

    So it is time to ask the question from the more realictic potential.
    What are you basing this assertion on? Crime has been going down for over a decade, gun laws got more lax in 2004, yet crime is still going down.
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    Re: Would you support LESS restrictions on guns if this had the potential to save liv

    Potential? Maybe.
    Proven. Yes then


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    Re: Would you support LESS restrictions on guns if this had the potential to save liv

    Are we proposing a gun (at least one !) for every citizen in order to cut crime.
    Interesting.
    According to Fox New's "governor" Huckabee, this is the way things SHOULD be...
    Unlimited ownership
    No regulations
    Or, England does this and that and we do the opposite..

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    Re: Would you support LESS restrictions on guns if this had the potential to save liv

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Would you support LESS restrictions on guns if this had the potential to save lives?
    As far as I am concerned, the burden always belongs on an advocate of less freedom to prove that the reduced freedom is necessary and justified to achieve some purpose, such as increased safety.

    Less restrictions on guns should not require evidence that the result would be improved safety, or any other benefit; only that the result would not be to make things very much worse.

    And evidence is clearly on that side. As you observed…

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    In this country the government has increasingly added restrictions on firearms, and crime goes up, not down - thus making the assertion that gun control allows and causes more crimes. Gun control is what allows almost all mass shootings.

    Gun control laws are harming us, and providing no benefit in return. Absolutely, we need to reduce or eliminate these restrictions, and not increase them.
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    Re: Would you support LESS restrictions on guns if this had the potential to save liv

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I'm tired of threads and messages that assert gun control will save lives. In this country the government has increasingly added restrictions on firearms, and crime goes up, not down - thus making the assertion that gun control allows and causes more crimes. Gun control is what allows almost all mass shootings.

    So it is time to ask the question from the more realictic potential.
    What federal restrictions are there on guns besides dealers needing a license, and background checks to weed out prohibited persons? And you think thats too many?

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    Re: Would you support LESS restrictions on guns if this had the potential to save liv

    Would you support LESS restrictions on guns if that was expected to save lives?

    notice the question was revised to anticipate positive change rather than a hope for positive change

    and with that revision my answer would be 'yes'
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    Re: Would you support LESS restrictions on guns if this had the potential to save liv

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I'm tired of threads and messages that assert gun control will save lives. In this country the government has increasingly added restrictions on firearms, and crime goes up, not down - thus making the assertion that gun control allows and causes more crimes. Gun control is what allows almost all mass shootings.

    So it is time to ask the question from the more realictic potential.
    I support less restrictions on guns regardless.
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    Re: Would you support LESS restrictions on guns if this had the potential to save liv

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I'm tired of threads and messages that assert gun control will save lives. In this country the government has increasingly added restrictions on firearms, and crime goes up, not down - thus making the assertion that gun control allows and causes more crimes. Gun control is what allows almost all mass shootings.

    So it is time to ask the question from the more realictic potential.
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    Re: Would you support LESS restrictions on guns if this had the potential to save liv

    Hell I'd support MORE restrictions if it'd save lives, but empirical evidence suggests the opposite.

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