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    Should health care workers be required to receive injections meant to prevent disease

    Should health care workers be required to receive injections meant to prevent disease?

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    Flu Epidemic: Hospitals Crack Down On Workers Who Refuse Shots

    — Patients can refuse a flu shot. Should doctors and nurses have that right, too? That is the thorny question surfacing as U.S. hospitals increasingly crack down on employees who won't get flu shots, with some workers losing their jobs over their refusal.

    "Where does it say that I am no longer a patient if I'm a nurse," wondered Carrie Calhoun, a longtime critical care nurse in suburban Chicago who was fired last month after she refused a flu shot.

    Hospitals' get-tougher measures coincide with an earlier-than-usual flu season hitting harder than in recent mild seasons. Flu is widespread in most states, and at least 20 children have died.

    Most doctors and nurses do get flu shots. But in the past two months, at least 15 nurses and other hospital staffers in four states have been fired for refusing, and several others have resigned, according to affected workers, hospital authorities and published reports.
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    Re: Should health care workers be required to receive injections meant to prevent dis

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Should health care workers be required to receive injections meant to prevent disease?

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    The better question is: What "public contact" workers should not be required to get them? Many other professions are in frequent contact with the elderly, the young and those "at high risk" of infection from a flu virus. As with anything else, this nation has to make a choice; total nanny state control or individual rights. Also, if it is a gov't mandate then it must be gov't funded, equally and for all.
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    Re: Should health care workers be required to receive injections meant to prevent dis

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    I think this will result in a Constitutional challenge. I faced the same thing back when flu shots were made with attenuated viruses. I had been told due to an almost fatal reaction to never take another. But now that it is made with recombinant DNA, I have no trouble with it. It is unconstitutional to force medical treatment on a person who is not mentally ill and a danger to self or others. Those two criteria are the standard.
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    Re: Should health care workers be required to receive injections meant to prevent dis

    I think they should be encouraged to get the shots, but not required as for flu. Things like Hepatitis I am a little more conflicted about. I wouldn't want Typhoid Mary walking around an ICU unit where the patients are already at high risk for new infections.

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    Re: Should health care workers be required to receive injections meant to prevent dis

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    I think this will result in a Constitutional challenge. I faced the same thing back when flu shots were made with attenuated viruses. I had been told due to an almost fatal reaction to never take another. But now that it is made with recombinant DNA, I have no trouble with it. It is unconstitutional to force medical treatment on a person who is not mentally ill and a danger to self or others. Those two criteria are the standard.
    The bolded bit is the argument the hospitals are using when they demand their employees get the flu shots.

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    Nationally, 20 children have died from the flu this season. There is no running tally of adult deaths, but the CDC estimates that the flu kills about 24,000 people in an average year.
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    Re: Should health care workers be required to receive injections meant to prevent dis

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    The bolded bit is the argument the hospitals are using when they demand their employees get the flu shots.

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    But you have to also be mentally ill to have treatment forced on you. State laws are clear on that.
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    Re: Should health care workers be required to receive injections meant to prevent dis

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I think they should be encouraged to get the shots, but not required as for flu. Things like Hepatitis I am a little more conflicted about. I wouldn't want Typhoid Mary walking around an ICU unit where the patients are already at high risk for new infections.
    They can't force you to get vaccinated for hepatitis either. The health care worker is more at risk for that than they patients.
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    Re: Should health care workers be required to receive injections meant to prevent dis

    I am not opposed to people refusing and I am not opposed to people being fired for refusing.

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    Re: Should health care workers be required to receive injections meant to prevent dis

    I don't want to be forced to get a flu shot.
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    Re: Should health care workers be required to receive injections meant to prevent dis

    Lets put this in the perspective of the patients and the adminstrations of hospitals.
    The flu kills, it doesnt normally kill healthy younger people, it does kill older and weaker and sick people. Check the statistics the flu kills millions over years. The flu is recurring and ever changing it comes back over and over.

    Health care providers are supposed to do just that...not infect others with the flu that are very susceptible to dieing.
    My cousin worked in maximum security prision for 30 yrs it was mandatory he got TB vaccinations and other vaccinations...
    If the agency is going to be liable for the results I dont see anything wrong with requiring shots to prevent the spread of disease or sickness...If its a requirement of employment then the employee accepts it or not.

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